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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Most folks who do not subscribe to the right cause celebre of the week hardly care about this as an important or crucial election issue.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Funny Boo. That is precisely how Obama sees things. No personal responsibility, it's always someone else who is at fault.

    He had to cover this up. His team could not figure out how to blame Bush.
    Frankly, the whining I see is as much, if not more, from conservatives who blame everyone around them.

    As for the cover up, provide some evidence. A claim is not evidence.

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Frankly, the whining I see is as much, if not more, from conservatives who blame everyone around them.

    As for the cover up, provide some evidence. A claim is not evidence.

    Susan Rice making the talk shows and saying that the attack was due to some protest based on the intel they had at the time. Was the beginning of the evidence. Then Obamas Press Secretary Jay Carney stating the same thing. Only to come out 10 days later stating they now knew it was a planned attack by militants. Notice the Terminology. Militants. There are several videos of what she stated and we do have a thread here on what she stated. So there is no getting around that fact.

    Moreover Obama if you recall at the second debate yelled for Candy. Show the tape, show the tape. Yeesssss show the tape in the Rose Garden. Any reason Obama didn't want to reference his first speech at Andrews Air Force base with Clinton upon receiving the Bodies of Stevens and the fallen. Notice he didn't mention an act of terror in that Speech.

    In addition Both Clinton and Obama knew that a trade Association and some Pakistani minister used world wide media to put a bounty on the guy that made the Anti Islam Movie. Which after 23 Muslim countries protested and rioted our Embassies. Clinton a week later was still imploring the Indians, Mali and Pakistan from resorting to violence. Stating they condemned the making of the movie.

    Seems the only ones whining are those that keep asking for more details. Do you think this is why Fienstein and other Democrats wants answers and why Fienstein has called For Senate hearings after the Election? there goes that theory about only conservatives looking to blame everyone around them.....huh?

    When the left has EJ Dunne, Lanny Davis, and James Carville questioning this Administrations actions and statements over Benghazi.....speaks Volumnes for those who have ears!

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Susan Rice making the talk shows and saying that the attack was due to some protest based on the intel they had at the time. Was the beginning of the evidence. Then Obamas Press Secretary Jay Carney stating the same thing. Only to come out 10 days later stating they now knew it was a planned attack by militants. Notice the Terminology. Militants. There are several videos of what she stated and we do have a thread here on what she stated. So there is no getting around that fact.

    Moreover Obama if you recall at the second debate yelled for Candy. Show the tape, show the tape. Yeesssss show the tape in the Rose Garden. Any reason Obama didn't want to reference his first speech at Andrews Air Force base with Clinton upon receiving the Bodies of Stevens and the fallen. Notice he didn't mention an act of terror in that Speech.

    In addition Both Clinton and Obama knew that a trade Association and some Pakistani minister used world wide media to put a bounty on the guy that made the Anti Islam Movie. Which after 23 Muslim countries protested and rioted our Embassies. Clinton a week later was still imploring the Indians, Mali and Pakistan from resorting to violence. Stating they condemned the making of the movie.

    Seems the only ones whining are those that keep asking for more details. Do you think this is why Fienstein and other Democrats wants answers and why Fienstein has called For Senate hearings after the Election? there goes that theory about only conservatives looking to blame everyone around them.....huh?

    When the left has EJ Dunne, Lanny Davis, and James Carville questioning this Administrations actions and statements over Benghazi.....speaks Volumnes for those who have ears!
    I'm sorry, but in order to accept that as evidence, you have to read in a conclusion you have started with. It is usually a mistake to begin with the conclusion.

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm sorry, but in order to accept that as evidence, you have to read in a conclusion you have started with. It is usually a mistake to begin with the conclusion.
    No actually I can look in the thread we have and see the Video of Susan Rice and her very own words. Especially about the intel that was had at the time. Course now the rest have validated it was a planned attack. So how was that again that Susan Rices own words can't be used against her as evidence with evidence starting as a conclusion?

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Nice. Wishing for a terrorist attack on the Capitol. You're so much better than Ahmedinijad.
    It would pose an opportunity for political reform, which I think we sorely need. That said I don't wish a nuke to be set off on the homefront.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    No actually I can look in the thread we have and see the Video of Susan Rice and her very own words. Especially about the intel that was had at the time. Course now the rest have validated it was a planned attack. So how was that again that Susan Rices own words can't be used against her as evidence with evidence starting as a conclusion?
    Because that isn't even the issue. A lot of people said a lot of things. Some accurate, some not. But you have to show a deliberate cover up. Not that people said inaccurate things.

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Frankly, the whining I see is as much, if not more, from conservatives who blame everyone around them.

    As for the cover up, provide some evidence. A claim is not evidence.
    Could it be they're doing the blaming because the blamed are actually at fault? Obama's record shows his lack of honesty. He failed on so many levels it's a miracle people still support him.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Because that isn't even the issue. A lot of people said a lot of things. Some accurate, some not. But you have to show a deliberate cover up. Not that people said inaccurate things.
    What part of "Obama said it two weeks later" and "they knew within 24 hours" didn't make sense to you? They knew right away, everyone involved did. Yet two weeks later they came out spewing the same bogus lie.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    Could it be they're doing the blaming because the blamed are actually at fault? Obama's record shows his lack of honesty. He failed on so many levels it's a miracle people still support him.
    You mean like saying Obama closed down Jeep and had those jobs outsourced to China? Or the entire "you didn't build that" dishonesty? Or how about this gem: "Regulations have quadrupled. The rate of regulations quadrupled under this president." Or this one: President Obama has "doubled" the deficit.

    What you have to show, with evidence and not speculation, is an actual cover up.

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