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    Re: Idea to control gas prices and help conversion to electric cars.

    Electric cars cost a billion dollars and look like they are made by Fisher-Price. No thanks, I've got crap to haul around. "Besides, electric cars are the way, Bro" folks must think that the electrical grid has a limitless supply of electrons created by Magic Fairies in the middle of the night. It would be a disaster if everybody plugged in at 5:30-6:00 when they got home around the same time and started cooking dinner and doing laundry and all the things that suck up the volts.

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    Re: Idea to control gas prices and help conversion to electric cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Issue each citizen a card good for there [sic] share of domestic gas. (unleaded, diesel, premium) Current gas card holders would use there [sic] current cards.
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    This way those of us that conserve and help America do not pay for the moron with a hummer that enjoys bowing to Arabs.
    Someone who is so illiterate that he doesn't even know the difference between “there” and “their” ought not be so fast to call anyone else a “moron”. It really helps, if you are going to cast aspersions on anyone else's intelligence, to be able to appear at least as intelligent as those whose intelligence you are disparaging.
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    Re: Idea to control gas prices and help conversion to electric cars.

    I think we should expand offshore drilling, and within a time frame become oil independent... Through tax cuts,Tax eliminations on businesses including oil companies. Drill ANWR and anywhere that has oil that is owned by the govt or that someone wants to sell, or someone can privately drill and sell. Free market rules, with incentives... NO EMINENT DOMAIN...meanwhile working on nuclear technology.
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    Re: Idea to control gas prices and help conversion to electric cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    1: Electricity is a regulated market, they are not allowed to gouge like the oil corps.
    Still does not change the fact that increased usage leads to more demand and if that demand exceeds what can be produced then they will charge more money. Hot summers and cold winters increase demand for electricity and you want to throw the burden that charging 85-185 cars on top of that.

    2: rolling black out cant happen, USA has capacity for 85 or 185 million electric cars with no changes.....(from memory)
    Note the tiny use of power at night of the grid, this is when people would charge cars.
    Rolling black outs can happened and have happened in the past.Population jammed packed cities have higher demands for electricity

    Rolling blackout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Idea to control gas prices and help conversion to electric cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    If they want to pay full world price for gas and commercial insurance on a family vehicle fine. Then they can pay that.

    Jet fuel is not gas........and I would eliminate jets by building high speed trains between cities, but that is another issue.
    Jet fuel and gasoline come from crude oil, they are consumed as demanded. It's irrelevant that they are different by products. High speed rail is a complete failure, ask Spain.

    There are no flaws, it would be cheaper for all since 60% of oil would be priced cheaper.
    details are for experts to worry about. All I am presenting is a basic idea.
    Ah, so you want experts to figure out details but claim assertively there are no flaws. Does not compute.

    The gas points are tied to the people. They are not tied to a vehicle. No reason a person cant sell his points to his boss for commercial use........
    Again, empowering the person......
    This is complete bull****. As Kandahar already pointed out, why should we have to buy and sell ration points when we can just buy as needed now?
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Idea to control gas prices and help conversion to electric cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Electric cars cost a billion dollars and look like they are made by Fisher-Price. No thanks, I've got crap to haul around. "Besides, electric cars are the way, Bro" folks must think that the electrical grid has a limitless supply of electrons created by Magic Fairies in the middle of the night. It would be a disaster if everybody plugged in at 5:30-6:00 when they got home around the same time and started cooking dinner and doing laundry and all the things that suck up the volts.
    Love that fairie dust. Why not use the exhaust (75% of the power in gasoline goes out the exhaust as waste heat) from our conventional cars to heat a storage material and tap that storage material immediately on arriving home for home heat, or A/C, or whatever and use 100% of our gasoline instead of 25%. You've heard it before because it's one of my pet peeves. Increase efficiency at the local level.

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    Re: Idea to control gas prices and help conversion to electric cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Love that fairie dust. Why not use the exhaust (75% of the power in gasoline goes out the exhaust as waste heat) from our conventional cars to heat a storage material and tap that storage material immediately on arriving home for home heat, or A/C, or whatever and use 100% of our gasoline instead of 25%. You've heard it before because it's one of my pet peeves. Increase efficiency at the local level.

    I am all for efficiency but I am not one of the special people who wants society to stop using any oil at midnight tonight to avoid the end of humanity as we know it.

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    Re: Idea to control gas prices and help conversion to electric cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Love that fairie dust. Why not use the exhaust (75% of the power in gasoline goes out the exhaust as waste heat) from our conventional cars to heat a storage material and tap that storage material immediately on arriving home for home heat, or A/C, or whatever and use 100% of our gasoline instead of 25%. You've heard it before because it's one of my pet peeves. Increase efficiency at the local level.
    Do you have any literature on why this hasn't been contemplated, developed and implemented already? If it's as easy as you describe, you could become fabulously wealthy.

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    Re: Idea to control gas prices and help conversion to electric cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Do you have any literature on why this hasn't been contemplated, developed and implemented already? If it's as easy as you describe, you could become fabulously wealthy.
    I didn't state that it was easy. I share the idea because it is a good one and I can not afford to develop it. I don't care if someone else profits from it, but they won't be patenting anything because I've made it public knowledge. It is practically, logically and economically feasible. It would add costs to a car for sure. The pollution rules regarding cars are a bunch of bullcrap. Do you remember the 1970 model year cars and the instant drop in gas mileage to 10 miles per gallon because it would fight pollution.. The gov't thought process at work. All costs filter downhill until they get to the end user, even costs that are blatantly wrong. Most gov't pollution control is wrong. As for electric cars, the purists want them just electric. A nice little 8-10 horsepower gasoline engine to backup and charge dying batteries would extend the range to practical levels. Run that little exhaust pipe into some phase change salts and when you get home flow the hot salts into your heat exchanger and flow some cold salts back into the car. Have an exhaust bypass if you cannot change your salts after they become saturated with heat.

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    Re: Idea to control gas prices and help conversion to electric cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    This is complete bull****. As Kandahar already pointed out, why should we have to buy and sell ration points when we can just buy as needed now?
    we already have dirt cheap marine fuel that is dyed, cheap and not taxed. I dont see people lining up at the marine pump with cars..........
    So yes, the dying thing works.

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