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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I see. Any young woman or girl should be required to go to the store and buy a morning after pill after being raped. I think I understand you.
    Where did I say that it's a requirement? The OP asks what I, as a woman, would do in such a situation. I certainly would not wait weeks to find out if I'm pregnant.
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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I've droned on and on about this in this forum - so I don't need to rehash much. But unfortunately I have been molested and raped. Really - the only difference is age when it comes to applying the terms. It's all the same **** in the end. But when I think of this I think of two incidences that happened after my period started - because that carried the risk of actual pregnancy. The idea of carrying the child of my cousin - or old ****face hetch - is so disgusting it makes me sick to think of the possibilities - it could have happened so easily, too . . .just a few days earlier or later. *vomit* it just makes my skin crawl. Of course I'd abort - holy **** - without a doubt. Sorry - but there's no way anyone could convince me otherwise . . . If it's a matter of being moral vs immoral then I guess I'm just one hell of an immoral succubus from hell for not wanting to parent a child with my either of them.

    My cousin and some old twisted pervert from my dad's church.

    **** that - **** you if you think I should WANT to. You can . . . the nutty pro lifers can carry their Damned Daddy's babies all they want in some twisted family-triangle psycho **** circus all they damned well please.

    Not me.

    Oh no - no ****ing way.

    All of my children were conceived and carried out of love. Sure - it didn't all go well (ok - it was hell) - but it was a hell I opted for and decided I wanted and love was only thing that go me through it it all.

    Maybe if I was raped by more decent people who don't make me sick to my stomach to just remember I'd have a different view. But that's not the case - so I don't.
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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Well I'm on BC so I doubt that I would get pregnant if that horrible thing did ever happen to me, and I do plan on getting a CCW at some point in the future so hopefully there would be 3 bullets in the would be rapists chest before he could do anything.

    But if I where to happen, and I did get pregnant I would lean towards having an abortion, I can't really know since I haven't, and hopefully am never in that situation, but I just can't see myself going through 9 months of pregnancy because of a rapist. The trauma I image would be unbearable.
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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Hugs AS, I can't even imagine.
    It's a horrible situation that I'm sure we all wish we could prevent.

    Aunt Spiker's situation is just the kind of situation I am referring to. She feels the way she feels. There is nothing I can do to change this, and I don't think she is "wrong" for the way she feels. I would NEVER condemn her for her decision to do what she feels is right or look down upon her for it, but I can still be pro-life in the fact that I don't have to agree with it either, and I can still think that it is a shame that circumstances led to this decision.

    You can be pro-life but also be realistic about it. Just because I'm pro-life does not mean that I am too obtuse to recognize that in some cases that is just asking TOO much from a person. I can totally understand how a woman's mental health and/or life could be effected by situations like these, but I can still feel sad about the loss of a potential life and that women even have to make such "choices."

    I don't understand why everyone thinks you have to so rigid in your thinking and cannot take a more realistic approach to things. It doesn't undermine what I would PREFER to see happen.

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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I cannot fathom a woman deciding to bring a child into the world who's genetic makeup is 50% hereditary from a rapist.
    This is how I feel too.....I've never been in this position so can't 100% say what I would do but thank goodness the choice is there if abortion was my decision.

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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    [QUOTE=ChrisL;1061064546][QUOTE=joko104;1061064535]
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post

    Anyone can find an study (or an article) to back up their opinion. If the article doesn't stand up to scrutiny and cannot prove a causative link (causative being the KEY word here), then it is nothing but theory and opinion (IOW, a junk study).

    Nobody is talking about forcing the woman to have or keep the child. I simply stated MY opinion, which was asked. What IS your problem anyway?
    The claim that offspring have no traits for their biological parents is just nonsense and I see no reason to argue about the obvious.

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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post

    The claim that offspring have no traits for their biological parents is just nonsense and I see no reason to argue about the obvious.
    No one said they don't inherit traits. I said there are NO guarantees at all. Two stupid people CAN have intelligent offspring and vice versa. Two criminals can have a child who will never commit a crime. If you are trying to use this as an argument to say that children born as a result of rape will grow up to be rapists themselves or even to commit other crimes, then you are just WRONG. So there really is no argument for me here.

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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Morning after pill, people. There's no need to wait until you miss your period. Nip it in the bud. It's certainly what I would do.
    No, in pro-life slogan-land morality, "LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION" and therefore taking an MAP is murdering her "innocent baby" for which the violently raped teenager is more EVIL than the man who violently assaulted and raped her. He's JUST a rapist, but SHE is a BABY MURDERER of her own baby!

    Because, oh terrrible horrors of destroying the zygote-baby no different that a newborn baby! And then they totally do a moral flip saying she should "just go thru pregnancy and labor have the baby" - which is no big deal at all as at worse a minor annoyance - and then just throw the baby away - which is what she does giving up the child at birth. In my opinion any woman who throws away her own child UNLESS to a SPECIFIC couple forever legally obligated of fully parenting duties - it is THAT woman that is INTOLERABLY EVIL and among the worst woman possible morally.

    I get angry on this topic, why I tend to stay off the abortion board. The woman I wrote of does more than get angry at pro-lifers talking this to her. She will tell them to get away from her, if they don't she screams to get away for her, and if they still don't she might become violent against them. I know of no woman who more loves children and anyone can drop off any child(ren) at any time for an hour, day, weekend, or weeks and she will charge nothing and even thank them. Many people do. She lives her talk.

    A devote Christian, she draws a distinction between humans as biological animals and humans as having a potential soul as a spiritual creature. Since the Bible says God "breathed life" into man - something not done with any animal - she does not believe a homo sapien becomes a human with a soul until first breathe is drawn. Until then, the fetus is just the ZEF species of the homo sapien animal and nothing more, with no more or less rights than the ZEF of any other animal - which is none.

    But once born, the obligations and duties to that child on that mother and father go thru the ceiling - for which throwing away the child is unthinkably evil UNLESS it certain the child going to a specific good family forever legally obligated to be and act 100% as parents of that child.
    Last edited by joko104; 10-25-12 at 12:39 PM.

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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post

    No one said they don't inherit traits. I said there are NO guarantees at all. Two stupid people CAN have intelligent offspring and vice versa. Two criminals can have a child who will never commit a crime. If you are trying to use this as an argument to say that children born as a result of rape will grow up to be rapists themselves or even to commit other crimes, then you are just WRONG. So there really is no argument for me here.
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    And I am saying that is a gamble for the woman to decide. There are no guarentees but there are odds. Odd are that if the bio-father is short and fat, the child will be too. The odds are if the biofather is a mental slow learner of a heritage of slow learned in IQ, so will the child. The same for known inheritable genetic health and disease traits. Etc

    Unlike your apparent view, I think a woman should consider what traits she is at least attempting to give her child, rather than not giving a damn. If there is a high statistical chance the child will be born with spina bifida, extremely low intelligence, a highly unattractive physical appearance trait, or with physical handicaps, the woman ethically should not have that be the bio-father of her child, though if he could handle that she certainly still could marry him.

    We know one woman who did exactly that - her children not biologically parented by her husband, but he is their father and the children know nothing different.

    Not once have I even hinted that a child concieved in rape has a higher chance of being a rapist or a criminal. Never, not once.
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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No, in pro-life slogan-land morality, "LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION" and therefore taking an MAP is murdering her "innocent baby" for which the violently raped teenager is more EVIL than the man who violently assaulted and raped her. He's JUST a rapist, but SHE is a BABY MURDERER of her own baby!

    Because, oh terrrible horrors of destroying the zygote-baby no different that a newborn baby! And then they totally do a moral flip saying she should "just go thru pregnancy and labor have the baby" - which is no big deal at all as at worse a minor annoyance - and then just throw the baby away - which is what she does giving up the child at birth. In my opinion any woman who throws away her own child UNLESS to a SPECIFIC couple forever legally obligated of fully parenting duties - it is THAT woman that is INTOLERABLY EVIL and among the worst woman possible morally.

    I get angry on this topic, why I tend to stay off the abortion board. The woman I wrote of does more than get angry at pro-lifers talking this to her. She will tell them to get away from her, if they don't she screams to get away for her, and if they still don't she might become violent against them. I know of no woman who more loves children and anyone can drop off any child(ren) at any time for an hour, day, weekend, or weeks and she will charge nothing and even thank them.

    A devote Christian, she draws a distinction between humans as biological animals and humans as having a potential soul as a spiritual creature. Since the Bible says God "breathed life" into man - something not done with any animal - she does not believe a homo sapien becomes a human with a soul until first breathe is drawn. Until then, the fetus is just the ZEF species of animal and nothing more, with no more or less rights than the ZEF of any other animal - which is none.

    But once born, the obligations and duties to that child on that mother and father go thru the ceiling - for which throwing away the child is unthinkably evil UNLESS it certain the child going to a specific good family forever legally obligated to be and act 100% as parents of that child.
    Like I said, I know some people who were adopted (and so do YOU apparently), who have turned into WONDERFUL people and are very happy. Giving a child the chance to live is NOT throwing the child away. Your statements about people who have made an informed decision to put their child up for adoption, adoptive parents and people who have been adopted are completely bogus and totally unfair and without merit.

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