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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What is that supposed to mean?
    There are women who do think about the genetics of the child(ren) she will have in who she has children with. Is the man intelligent or a slow learner? What does he look like physically in relation to her? Etc. That certainly is a right the woman has.

    Obviously that is a child who is going to grow up without his father in many instances. And in many instances it is forcing a young woman to be a single mother and all the stigma problems, lose of future relationship potentials, possibly destroyed academic and employment future, lose of time freedom, lost of travel ability, life inhibitors, and economic challenges that causes.

    How old she is, what her circumstance in life is already, and whether there is a supportive husband and family would make a big difference on what having the baby means in real terms. The attitude of the husband and family would matter too.

    There are pro-lifers who claim a woman is responsible for all that because she decided to have sex and take the risk. Then will do a 180 turn and claim all that argument is irrelevant and the woman should just have the baby and then throw it away after birth.

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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I cannot fathom a woman deciding to bring a child into the world who's genetic makeup is 50% hereditary from a rapist.
    That assumes that a person's character traits and behaviors are dependent on heredity, and not on environment, which I do not believe to be the case.
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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

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    There are women who do think about the genetics of the child(ren) she will have in who she has children with. Is the man intelligent or a slow learner? What does he look like physically in relation to her? Etc. That certainly is a right the woman has.
    None of this is a guarantee of anything though, except for physical attributes. Of course this is a right she has, but we aren't talking about selective mating here.

    Obviously that is a child who is going to grow up without his father in many instances. And in many instances it is forcing a young woman to be a single mother and all the stigma problems, lose of future relationship potentials, possibly destroyed academic and employment future, lose of time freedom, lost of travel ability, life inhibitors, and economic challenges that causes.
    There are PLENTY of single mothers out there. What's your point?

    How old she is, what her circumstance in life is already, and whether there is a supportive husband and family would make a big difference on what having the baby means in real terms. The attitude of the husband and family would matter too.
    Again, we aren't talking about consensual sex here.

    There are pro-lifers who claim a woman is responsible for all that because she decided to have sex and take the risk. Then will do a 180 turn and claim all that argument is irrelevant and the woman should just have the baby and then throw it away after birth.
    Giving up a child for adoption is NOT throwing it away. It is ALLOWING that child to have a chance to LIVE.

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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    A poll on the Internet isn't going to give you an honest answer. I'd say a woman would be stupid to go through it adoption or not. It's not a good thing no matter the decision. How you gonna tell the kid anything? "Yeah your dad and I met when he attacked me in the Kmart parking lot. The end. Now quit looking at me you have his horrible eyes that haunt my nightmares."
    It takes a willingness to put the interest of someone else above that of yourself.
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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    That assumes that a person's character traits and behaviors are dependent on heredity, and not on environment, which I do not believe to be the case.
    I agree. I think MOST criminals are a product of their environment.

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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh really? Where is your evidence of this? I've never heard of "raping" being a hereditary trait before.
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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It takes a willingness to put the interest of someone else above that of yourself.
    And an ability to realize that the child is ALSO a part of you and is not in any way responsible.

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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And an ability to realize that the child is ALSO a part of you and is not in any way responsible.
    I think I pretty much covered that in my initial response to the poll last night:
    Yes, I would keep it and raise it. It was not the child's fault that a rape caused his existence, and a rape does not devalue a child which was a product of it.
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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    This study is so incomplete it's not even funny. Was it peer reviewed? I don't see any mention of any peer reviews. It's full of "mays" and "mights." It mentions nothing about crime being hereditary. It simply says certain traits, such as low intelligence and alcoholism. There is NO mention of genetics being a CAUSATIVE factor for anyone involved in the study either.

    You'll have to do better than this.

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    Re: For women: would you bear a child who was conceived from a rape?

    From the article:
    This finding, the scientist said, implies that it should be possible to achieve a ''marked'' reduction in America's crime rate if those so predisposed could be identified in early childhood and given preventive treatment.
    Dr. Mednick said that he did not believe that criminal behavior itself was inherited. Rather, he theorized, what is inherited are biological factors that might be associated with crime. As possible examples, he cited nervous system characteristics, low intelligence and predisposition to alcoholism. 14,427 Life Histories Studied
    For example, among sons placed with adoptive parents having no criminal backgrounds, 20 percent of those whose biological fathers were criminals were found to have had criminal convictions, but only 13.5 percent of those born of noncriminal fathers did.
    It sounds to me like the article is suggesting that environment and treatment do indeed play a role, and the percentage difference cited is not that significant.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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