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Thread: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    IOW, you don't like One man, One vote.
    You want to continue the DISproportionate power of the Sparser Western RED States.. of course.

    This disproportionate power also, and related, weighs on the day-to-day running of our Government through the Senate.
    1 Million People in Wyoming have 2 Senators, while 20 Million people in NY have only the same 2 Senators.
    20 Million People living in Wyoming, Montana, Utah, etc, Totaled together, have far more power than the same number living in one Larger state.
    Thus, Laws are made, Judges approved, and money distributed, Unequally in favor of sparser RED States.
    And bigger states dominate the House.
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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I'll answer the same as I have every other time this has come up. The electoral college is outdated and unnecessary. No one person's vote should count for more than any other person's.
    Good news :
    In the current system, every vote cast by the general public counts exactly the same: Exactly zero.

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    Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    They are already able to do this. California gets 50-something votes while Nebraska gets 2. If you were arguing for a system where each state got equal votes you'd be on the right track.
    Say what??
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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    And bigger states dominate the House.
    Excapt that they do not. Neither chamber votes along state lines.

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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    And bigger states dominate the House.
    Of course, but that is per capita/PROPORTIONAL/Fair representation.

    What a non sequitur reply.
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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    We know that it is possible for the candidate receiving the most votes to lose (Gore) and the voters in all but 7 states are now irrelevant to the candidates. The strategy of both is to forget about recieving a majority of votes and instead only care about the delegate count of 7 states.

    Do you think that regardless of the election outcome, there should be a constitutional amendment to have national elections (president) decided by direct democracy in which the winner is determined by which candidate received more votes nationwide?
    Absolutely excellent question! And someone should educate all the voting mob that the only thing, narrow and weak it may be, that stands between their (group) rights and just being trampled over is that little Electoral College, with its Delegates. A uniquely intelligent system, uniquely American, and uniquely above every democracy that world history ever produced. Cherish it everyone while you can. When it will be gone, then you can as well be Chinese or Russian or Gypsy.

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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Of course, but that is per capita/PROPORTIONAL/Fair representation.

    What a non sequitur reply.
    We prefer our disproportional representation in one body, hence my reply. You call it fair to do otherwise, we do not.
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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    We prefer our disproportional representation in one body, hence my reply. You call it fair to do otherwise, we do not.
    You have a Logic problem. (to be kind)

    Because one body has Fair per capita representation, it does NOT follow that it is 'balanced' by another that isn't fair!

    What can one say to this fallacious theory, now repeated Twice.
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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    We do not consider it to be fair that affairs be dictated and commanded by those of larger populations at the expense of many of us who are not more populated. Your democratic summations need to be counterbalanced to ensure fairness.
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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    We do not consider it to be fair that affairs be dictated and commanded by those of larger populations at the expense of many of us who are not more populated. Your democratic summations need to be counterbalanced to ensure fairness.
    ANOTHER Logic-challenged/Deficient post.
    Note the Faux Persecution complex as a deflection from Logic Collapse.

    With one man-one vote, one man-one rep... no one is "dictated to" and representation is proportional and fair.
    As it stands now, ie, 4 Western states with a total of 10 million people and 8 Senators can "dictate" to a large state like NY with Twice as many people but Only 2 Senators.
    And I could make an even more egregious case than that.

    Your posts are intentionally obtuse... I hope.
    Or perhaps just self-interested/Partisan-Warp.
    In any case, you've been ripped well enough for everyone to understand now.
    Last-word away but it's game over and been so for several posts now.
    bye.
    Last edited by mbig; 10-25-12 at 12:32 AM.
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