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Thread: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Is there some reason you are attempting to make this a rather juvenille exercise in mud throwing?


    Said the mud slinger. Go figure!






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    Why do I think I'm in the middle of a Monty Python skit about herrings?
    Because you are. Are you enjoying it?

    Get some popcorn and join Michael.


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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post


    Said the mud slinger. Go figure!







    Because you are. Are you enjoying it?

    Get some popcorn and join Michael.

    What does Michael Jackson have to do with this thread?
    What does Michael Jackson have to do with the Electoral College?
    What does Michael Jackson have to do with you not knowing what a red herring is and how to identify it?
    What does Michael Jackson have to do with you not knowing the difference between Congress and what constitutes Congress?

    It seems that now you are simply baiting and trying to get me down to wallow at your level. Why are you doing this and why can't you simply engage in intelligent discourse here?
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    re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

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    Re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    We know that it is possible for the candidate receiving the most votes to lose (Gore) and the voters in all but 7 states are now irrelevant to the candidates. The strategy of both is to forget about recieving a majority of votes and instead only care about the delegate count of 7 states.

    Do you think that regardless of the election outcome, there should be a constitutional amendment to have national elections (president) decided by direct democracy in which the winner is determined by which candidate received more votes nationwide?
    Personally, I think that a lot of confusion has been created with the practice of voting for electors. It gives the mistaken impression that the president is elected by a plebiscite and not by electors. I would prefer that the electors for president were chosen by the state legislature, as prescribed in the constitution. That would eliminate any confusion as to the meaning of "the popular vote", as there would simply be no popular vote.

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    Re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Personally, I think that a lot of confusion has been created with the practice of voting for electors. It gives the mistaken impression that the president is elected by a plebiscite and not by electors. I would prefer that the electors for president were chosen by the state legislature, as prescribed in the constitution. That would eliminate any confusion as to the meaning of "the popular vote", as there would simply be no popular vote.
    I would hope that such a plan be given lots of national publicity so that the American people are well aware of what some on the right would do with their right to vote.
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    Re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I would hope that such a plan be given lots of national publicity so that the American people are well aware of what some on the right would do with their right to vote.
    And do you also feel the citizens of the UK are being denied their right to vote for Prime Minister?

    Do you feel as if US citizens are being denied their right to vote for federal justices?

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    Re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    And do you also feel the citizens of the UK are being denied their right to vote for Prime Minister?

    Do you feel as if US citizens are being denied their right to vote for federal justices?
    I have no idea what either of those two questions have to do with the advocating that the American people be stripped of their vote.
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    Re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have no idea what either of those two questions have to do with the advocating that the American people be stripped of their vote.
    Well, think it through. The American people don't vote for Federal justices. Do you regard them as having been stripped of their right to vote? If not, why not?

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    Re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    Now if we could eliminate the 17th Amendment and get back to basics.
    Your "we" here is obviously not "we, the people." Which isolated, sheltered, and conceited clique do you mean by "we"? And why do you identify yourself with people who have as much contempt for those who support their elitism as they do for us, the people? Are you hoping that they will appoint you to be one of their new unelected Senators?
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    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Time for direct democracy - end electorial college?[W:193]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    iLOL

    I wasn't taking an exam.



    Your questions were and are still a red herring.
    And there is simply no reason to go off on a tangent and answer them.
    They are nothing more than a distraction, as stated.

    Nothing you said has changed, or will change the fact that "They would still be a State without the people, and would still be represented in both the Senate and Congress." Nothing.
    Try again teacher, because you fail for going off on a red herring and now for trying to justify it.
    If Haymarket puts on a red wig, will that be a red hairing too?
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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