Who Is The Crappiest American?

Single issue voters are the worst because they are the easiest to manipulate. Take a hot button issue, say you're for something that has no chance of passing and that you have no interest in pursuing, and poof.... you've just won a sizable voting block for nothing.

Nothing irks me more than duplicity, and there's no element in politics more duplicitous than the bate and switch that occurs with single issue voters.

Ever wonder why nothing ever happens with the issues that single issue voters vote on? If the people who push the issues ever did anything, then their supporters would be free to vote on OTHER issues.

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[COLOR=#cc0066]Who do you resent the most?  The guy who's informed and voting against your candidate, the guy who's such a single issue voter he's still writing Ralph Nader (or some other not-a-chance third party candidate) in, the guy who clearly hasn't bothered to learn thing one about the issues but is nonetheless voting against your guy, or.............

The guy who doesn't even bother to vote?[/COLOR]

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I pick party-tards as the worst American and the uninformed voter regardless of who they vote for as second place or even a tie for crappiest American.

Party-tards are people who only care about their party winning. Party-tards will vote for a candidate who is politically the opposite of them just as long as that candidate is in the same party they are in. Party-tards will do something and then hypocritically bash the other party for doing something that they themselves did. Party-tards will lie to voters by telling them if you don't vote for their guy then you are throwing your vote away. Party-tards will also disregard a candidate who share these same views they do if the media tells them that candidate will not stand a chance or if that candidate is in another party.The other thing that makes them the worst is the fact most of them are informed but they still choose to vote for a lousy candidate. This is why candidates have a low approval rating and a high incumbent reelection rate.

The uninformed voter is just as dangerous as the party-tards since they don't bother to research the candidates they are voting for and are usually influenced by ads.These people are the 2nd cause of why politicians can have a low approval rating and a high incumbent reelection rate.

Its is because of these two groups of people why there is a need for term limits,waiting periods for politicians wanting to run for different offices or political appointments and why party affiliation should be removed from ballots(party replaced with a shot list a candidate's views and past votes under the candidate's name on the ballot and on the voting booth wall have a more thorough list of those candidates views).


The guy who doesn't vote is not a threat to any political cause or the country.If you don't support any candidate then you shouldn't vote for those candidates. If you don't know squat about those candidates then you should not be voting for those candidates.

Rep. Darrel Issa of CA is the crappiest American.

The people who vote based on ignorance and people who believe that their individual vote has any meaningful statistical significance.

Single-issue voters are the crappiest.

Someone who doesn't vote at least does no damage. Single-issue voters actively push bad government on everyone else.

Do we really need to bankrupt our country, put up with apology tours, and inch closer to communism so that gays can marry? For example.

What bugs me are the ones who vote for a candidate only because of race.

By that I mean black people who only vote for Obama because he is black, and hillbillies who won't even consider Obama because he is black.

Pinkie said:

I think not voting is the worst. It speaks of a complete apathy about the nation and your fellow citizens, the future and other nations who'll be affected by our foreign policy.

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No it doesn't.
It's completely rational.

Mega Millions odds of winning are worse, but given the entire context of it, not by much in my estimation.
What does that mean, your vote doesn't matter all that much.

Donahue said:

You're such a waste of time.

Why would you even ask a question if you're just going to argue with everyone about every answer they give?

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Why post to this thread if you don't want to debate the subject matter? Do you need a cookie for every single opinion you manage to cobble together and urp out onto the net?

This phrase applies to the voters who don't vote:

"You can choose not to decide, but you still have made a choice".

Harry Guerrilla said:

No it doesn't.
It's completely rational.

Mega Millions odds of winning are worse, but given the entire context of it, not by much in my estimation.
What does that mean, your vote doesn't matter all that much.

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Well, for starters, there are state and local races in every election -- for example, my city has a school levy on this ballot. A few dozen voters can influence that outcome.

As for national races, I know what you're saying but it sounds to my ear like a plea to bless apathy. I used to hear some married people say that their spouse did not support the same candidate as they did, so they'd mutually agreed not to vote.

I can't wrap my brain around someone being so cavalier about a right that Americans have died for, that cities have burned for, that we all agree is what keeps our democracy the best in the world.

What would be the payoff for not voting, apart from indulging an impulse to be lazy?

Peter Grimm said:

What bugs me are the ones who vote for a candidate only because of race.

By that I mean black people who only vote for Obama because he is black, and hillbillies who won't even consider Obama because he is black.

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I hear this so often, but tell me, where were Herman Caine's black voters?

You resent that Obama gets a connection with certain voters because of his ethnicity or background? Name me one president who didn't.

Pinkie said:

Well, for starters, there are state and local races in every election -- for example, my city has a school levy on this ballot. A few dozen voters can influence that outcome.

As for national races, I know what you're saying but it sounds to my ear like a plea to bless apathy. I used to hear some married people say that their spouse did not support the same candidate as they did, so they'd mutually agreed not to vote.

I can't wrap my brain around someone being so cavalier about a right that Americans have died for, that cities have burned for, that we all agree is what keeps our democracy the best in the world.

What would be the payoff for not voting, apart from indulging an impulse to be lazy?

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The payoff?
Because no matter who I vote for, most specifically in federal elections, my state will vote red.
It doesn't matter.

It's an emotional investment, with no real return.
We don't have a democracy, it's a democratic republic, with many/most of it's participants that are particularly ignorant.

Peter Grimm said:

Single-issue voters are the crappiest.

Someone who doesn't vote at least does no damage. Single-issue voters actively push bad government on everyone else.

Do we really need to bankrupt our country, put up with apology tours, and inch closer to communism so that gays can marry? For example.

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I don't happen to know any GLBT people or supporters I consider to be single-issue voters. I've only seen this phenomena twice: once about abortion and the other time about Castro and maintaining the boycott on Cuba.

In fact, a few of my GLBT friends are intensely conservative and are usually annoyed with me for placing as much weight as I do on social justice.

Harry Guerrilla said:

The payoff?
Because no matter who I vote for, most specifically in federal elections, my state will vote red.
It doesn't matter.

It's an emotional investment, with no real return.
We don't have a democracy, it's a democratic republic, with many/most of it's participants that are particularly ignorant.

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My state is up for grabs, but not my city. To be in the GOP in Cleveland politics is to be the invisible man -- in 2010, the local GOP never even bothered to put up a candidate for my county District Attorney -- and that's after half or more of all Cleveland-area politicians were arrested by the FBI on public corruption charges.

I feel your pain, Harry.

Voting for someone just because of their race is stupid whether we're talking about blacks voting black or whites voting white.

I'll quote Martin Luther King: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

When 96% of black voters cast their ballot for Obama, it suggests he was getting votes due to the color of his skin, and it's evidence that we're a long way from achieving Dr. King's dream.

Pinkie said:

I hear this so often, but tell me, where were Herman Caine's black voters?

You resent that Obama gets a connection with certain voters because of his ethnicity or background? Name me one president who didn't.

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Peter Grimm said:

Voting for someone just because of their race is stupid whether we're talking about blacks voting black or whites voting white.

I'll quote Martin Luther King: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

When 96% of black voters cast their ballot for Obama, it's evidence that we're a long way from achieving Dr. King's dream.

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Get back to me when a black conservative like Herman Caine attracts a solid black voting bloc.

Blacks are not supporting Obama because he's black; they're supporting him because he is far more liberal than Romney -- and a significant number of black voters are so peeved at Obama, they won't vote for him.

You seem to view your fellow American as an ass with too little brain power to form reasoned judgments about his own best interests and the nation's. I'd say the only fixed idea at work here is yours, Peter.

It was just an example. Single issue voters suck no matter what the issue.

Actually the one I see most often is young people who voted for Ron Paul due to his stance on legalizing marijuana. That is just stupid.

Pinkie said:

I don't happen to know any GLBT people or supporters I consider to be single-issue voters. I've only seen this phenomena twice: once about abortion and the other time about Castro and maintaining the boycott on Cuba.

In fact, a few of my GLBT friends are intensely conservative and are usually annoyed with me for placing as much weight as I do on social justice.

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Peter Grimm said:

It was just an example. Single issue voters suck no matter what the issue.

Actually the one I see most often is young people who voted for Ron Paul due to his stance on legalizing marijuana. That is just stupid.

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I've never been a huge fan of single issue voters -- but at least they vote.

Pinkie said:

My state is up for grabs, but not my city. To be in the GOP in Cleveland politics is to be the invisible man -- in 2010, the local GOP never even bothered to put up a candidate for my county District Attorney -- and that's after half or more of all Cleveland-area politicians were arrested by the FBI on public corruption charges.

I feel your pain, Harry.

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It's not pain, but more of "I'm not going to be associated with people who make ignorant choices."
If "the people" want to delude themselves, why should I try to stop them.

When I go to work, with people I generally respect on a professional level, to hear their political opinions, it just annoys me how little they know and how little investment of time they put into understanding issues.
They take too much for granted and form political opinions based on these untruths.
This assessment is not a right or left one, but it encompasses people on both sides of the spectrum.

Are you really saying that Obama's 96% support by black voters in 2008 had nothing to do with the fact that he was to become the first black president?

Pinkie said:

Get back to me when a black conservative like Herman Caine attracts a solid black voting bloc.

Blacks are not supporting Obama because he's black; they're supporting him because he is far more liberal than Romney -- and a significant number of black voters are so peeved at Obama, they won't vote for him.

You seem to view your fellow American as an ass with too little brain power to form reasoned judgments about his own best interests and the nation's. I'd say the only fixed idea at work here is yours, Peter.

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I am the crappiest American. I don't believe that I should know all of the best ways to run our government. A discussion of America's booming economy will bore me to tears. I would not like to have a better understanding of all of the issues that face us today. It's just not that interesting to me.

Sorry, but I'm early voting on Thursday.

I was hoping this thread was going to be about Lindsay Lohan...."The crappiest American..."

Mickey Shane said:

I am the crappiest American. I don't believe that I should know all of the best ways to run our government. A discussion of America's booming economy will bore me to tears. I would not like to have a better understanding of all of the issues that face us today. It's just not that interesting to me.

Sorry, but I'm early voting on Thursday.

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Kinda highlights my reasoning behind why most people vote.
The best and most often reason for people voting, is because it makes them feel good.

The worst and least realistic reason, is to "fix" things.

Why go some where, to punch of a bunch of buttons or fill in ovals to feel good, when you can do it in the comfort of your own home?

My choice would be a straight-up tie between the single issue voter and the clearly uniformed voter that is either voting for or against my chosen candidate.

I don't mind those who choose not to vote. And I actually like that others are informed, regardless of who they vote for. That last said, the paid sockpuppets and fanatics are repugnant. They should have made the list.

Harry Guerrilla said:

Kinda highlights my reasoning behind why most people vote.
The best and most often reason for people voting, is because it makes them feel good.

The worst and least realistic reason, is to "fix" things.

Why go some where, to punch of a bunch of buttons or fill in ovals to feel good, when you can do it in the comfort of your own home?

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There's a puff out the chest moment that lasts while you're walking back to the car. Then a sticker for your coffee cup that will last a day or two.

Then there's that four year period of being in the electoral college's majority. Walkin' the walk.