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Thread: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I really think all of you should read my previous post for more context. What I am saying is, is the system gets abused.
    of course it does-by both the recipients and the politicians who want to create more and more dependents

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    The only entitlement you should have in America is what you work for.
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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    I do wish there was better enforcement. It is really irritating to see some people living large and yet collecting benefits.

    But you can never tell what the back-story is. My ex-wife gets $840 a month from SS. Because she now gets $10K a year, they pulled her Medicaid. Yet you might look at her and ask how she can live in a nice 2 bedroom house whose rent would be $800 plus utilities. The answer is that I pay for it - despite the 30 years that have passed since our divorce. If she wanted an I-phone, I'm sure my son would get her one although she is perfectly happy with the $15 a month phone I also pay for. So, she still get $26 a month in food stamps and thus counts as a "food stamp recipient".

    ((Her "boyfriend" talked her into applying for the food stamps. None of my business really))

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Drugs-drugs? How eloquent. What you pay for 6 pack of beer will get you a 10-15 dollar meth hit in most cities South of New York.
    Well, I guess you'd know.

    Meth is addictive. Meth can be exceedingly dangerous. It's illegal. I think it should be. Thus, whether it's addictive or not...whether it's too expensive or not, I don't care. Pot? I don't think it should be illegal; thus my different opinion in that regard.
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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    you can't use food stamps to buy anything but food

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Food for a family, rent, and medical costs are WAY more expensive than drugs, booze or a phone. An internet connection and a subscription to World of Warcraft is a drop in the bucket compared to maintaining a car so that you can drive to work every day. There is no equivalence at all between money for necessities and some spare change for a few entertainments.
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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    should corporations who make billions get government subsidies ?

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by edeneen View Post
    should corporations who make billions get government subsidies ?
    Do you like socialism?

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I do wish there was better enforcement. It is really irritating to see some people living large and yet collecting benefits.

    But you can never tell what the back-story is. My ex-wife gets $840 a month from SS. Because she now gets $10K a year, they pulled her Medicaid. Yet you might look at her and ask how she can live in a nice 2 bedroom house whose rent would be $800 plus utilities. The answer is that I pay for it - despite the 30 years that have passed since our divorce. If she wanted an I-phone, I'm sure my son would get her one although she is perfectly happy with the $15 a month phone I also pay for. So, she still get $26 a month in food stamps and thus counts as a "food stamp recipient".

    ((Her "boyfriend" talked her into applying for the food stamps. None of my business really))
    are you legally still on the hook for paying her or is it just a ethical thing with you?
    If its a legal thing, man, that's a really crappy deal.

    Fortunatley for me I've been married to my wife for so long that there's no way I'll live for 30 years to be paying her if she divorces me. Not much of a consolation, but.....
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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    No, I paid my divorce settlement many years ago.

    She's the mother of my one and only child and she's not realistically employable. Her health is poor, she's diabetic and has had a stroke which still leaves her with balance problems. She had a job working for my company for many years. After I sold my shares, they continued to employ her but within a few years, they drove the company into the ground.

    She lived with her boyfriend for most of the last 30 years but in 2001 I adopted a cat that had been hit by a car. Because of her mangled face, nobody wanted her. My boy cat just hated her and she lived on top of a bookcase because he would attack her. Too sad.

    So, when she (ex-wife) approached me about getting a place of her own since Mr. Boyfriend is an alcoholic who knows everything (but he loves her dearly and does many things for her so he's aces in my book) I bought her a townhouse on condition she adopt the cat. That was in 2002. The townhouse was next to my ex-girlfriends house and we've (ex-GF) remained close friends over the years. Ultimately, I bough another townhouse for a cat shelter and then another one that I moved into. Silly, huh? I now own 8 townhouses in this complex, 6 for rentals, one for her and one for me and Team Meow.

    In return for the house and an allowance, she (ex-wife) does all my food preparation so it's an OK deal all the way around. I never remarried, had 20 pretty hot girlfriends over the years and I'm now content to live with the cats. So, WTH, I support her (and the cat) and I really don't mind it. I'm 69 so my next life stage involves turning into dust, so I might as well be nice.






    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    are you legally still on the hook for paying her or is it just a ethical thing with you?
    If its a legal thing, man, that's a really crappy deal.

    Fortunatley for me I've been married to my wife for so long that there's no way I'll live for 30 years to be paying her if she divorces me. Not much of a consolation, but.....

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