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Thread: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    I can see why. But today we had chorizo, eggs and tortillas, and then rice and top ramen for lunch. Lol I'm assuming you eat better than that.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsea View Post
    I'm in healthcare, Medical Assisting and pharmacy tech, My husband worked at Chuck E Cheese in management for 5 years and was just given the "we are making cutbacks thanks fir your time here" speach last month.
    I'm sorry you were laid off, but you could always pick up a minimum wage paying job somewhere else. If you work 90 hours a week combined, you could both pick up a job that pays 7.50 an hour and work 90 hours a week. That would be 32,400 a year, compared to the 15,000 you would be getting in unemployment and food stamps.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Chicken sandwich and Dr. Pepper. Of course, I love chicken and am not too much into Mexican food. Well, I can do Taco Bell, but I'm not about to sit down at some restaurant and be nauseated by the speakers playing Cielito Lindo while two waiters pretend that I can't understand what they're talking about when they stand 3 feet behind me.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsea View Post
    I'm in healthcare, Medical Assisting and pharmacy tech, My husband worked at Chuck E Cheese in management for 5 years and was just given the "we are making cutbacks thanks fir your time here" speach last month.
    What do you consider the biggest hinderance for the 2 of you to get a new job? Most people/analysts would (naively?) believe that as the healthcare sector has been rising so well, a lot of future job openings would be expected there. Even college ads pound on that. What is the reality?

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    I'm sorry you were laid off, but you could always pick up a minimum wage paying job somewhere else. If you work 90 hours a week combined, you could both pick up a job that pays 7.50 an hour and work 90 hours a week. That would be 32,400 a year, compared to the 15,000 you would be getting in unemployment and food stamps.
    This is unfair. I read it somewhere that you would rather starve on a street after Walmart destroyed your corner shop that you owned, plus your degreed office job went to India whilst you are still repaying your student loans. How can we take away people's survival resources and then tell them to smile at a slave counter?

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    No capacity? Are you serious?

    Then I guess we fail as a nation for not teaching the average American the simplest of math. Damn, if you can balance a checkbook, you can set aside some sort of rudimentary budget.



    I've taken psychology, and at no point in the class did I learn that most human beings are born with a complete ineptitude toward counting and common sense.

    I refuse to accept the concept of babying these people. It's absurd, disgusting, and morally repugnant. Where I come from, you chop off a gangrenous limb so it doesn't kill the entire body.
    You haven't been with them. I have been with them many times. I have found that some, more than you think, "human beings are born with a complete ineptitude toward counting and common sense." It is really something to see a small section 8 apartment complex full of them.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    You haven't been with them. I have been with them many times. I have found that some, more than you think, "human beings are born with a complete ineptitude toward counting and common sense." It is really something to see a small section 8 apartment complex full of them.
    And people bitch about me being a social Darwinist. This seems like an excellent argument for it.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    And people bitch about me being a social Darwinist. This seems like an excellent argument for it.
    If the majority mechanism was Darwinist they would die out, would have happened a long time ago. What can happen now is things like the mother was too overweight an got pregnant and now has a child that will be a candidate for section 8 housing. We have known her for several years. Or a mom to be that drinks too much. Etc. My relative that has a defect, no bigger than 1 mm that is blocking normal drainage from the arachnoid discovered incidentally in a CT scan for another reason. No cause is known and it's not genitic. The result was Oh ....! That's why! It's not his fault.
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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I wonder if the people who agree with this sentiment would feel the same way if the "entitlements" we were talking about were things that middle-class people often used as well: Federal student loans, social security, etc. If a college kid can afford alcohol, should he be getting government assistance?

    I think people are a lot more judgmental in the case of entitlements associated with poverty, because what it really boils down to is some rather negative (and generally false) assumptions about poor people.
    This is the dumbest ass thing I've seen in this thread so far. I have student loans and guess what? I actually pay them off because they are loans not grants. Look up the definitions it can help you in the future when "debating".
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by hikari View Post
    You dont have to be ultra poor to receive food stamps, it might not be great priorities but, everyone I know who has been on food stamps still managed to buy some beer every now and again. I don't think a 6-pack of Coors is really on par with having a brand new iphone as I could find the change to buy a 6 pack in my truck.

    Welfare as in TANF, is a much tighter program, I almost assure you that if you see someone with fancy stuff on TANF they are either making money illegally (such as dealing drugs) or lying to the government about thier situation, a crime in any case.

    As to pictures, sure you could find needy looking people with new Nikes and phones but what would that prove?
    Good post.

    Clearly no one likes cheaters and yet if a person on unemployment decide to give up privacy and live with 5 other people in one room so they can afford an iphone ... who I am to decide their priorities?

    Cheaters and parasites always destroy safety nets and not only take money that is not intended for them ... they harm the people in dire need that do need a temporary safety net.

    I can think of many examples ... what if someone completely sacrifices almost all they have because an iphone allows them internet to begin a business or job search or read.

    Alcohol is legal ... is someone is out of work and they scrape together a few bucks for beer ... seriously people?

    Illegal drugs? I think people on the system for long periods of time should be drug tested randomly. That is a major cause of unemployment in some groups is positive drug tests.

    Case by case ... is why I voted other.

    If I had a relative that was truly on hard times I might consider paying for an iPhone if it gave them an opportunity to step out of the situation ... if they were not just parasitic or using the system.

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