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Thread: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I see this one often and I actually totally agree and do in fact agree that you shouldn't be able to get welfare, food stamps, section 8, etc. If someone has images that say this please post. Thoughts?
    Some things like alcohol should definitely make a welfare / food-stamp / section-8 recipient null and void. But some other things should be allowed, such as typically tobacco. (I am a non-smoker by the way.) I think the emphasis should be how much those products would alter their sentiments and minds. Alcohol and drugs alter them a lot. Cigarettes, not so much.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsea
    I wish you could see the $513 check we get each month for our rent, bills,3 childrens needs and then $789 in foodstamps. There is no discounted rent etc. Section 8 is closed so wd manage by getting a little cup and sitting on the Vegas strip to suoplement our income. Other than selling drugs or prostituting I don't see how anyone can live on this. I think people generalize too much. I'm a college graduate that speaks 3 languages and I can't find a decent job to save my life.Letting people just die is cruel because thats what it would come to for millions.
    Might I suggest not having 3 kids?

    I'd rather see Madonna and Angelina Jolie adopt a whole African village than watch a woman have a single child she cannot afford.

    Besides...can't be too bad off if you own a computer to be here.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Might I suggest not having 3 kids?

    I'd rather see Madonna and Angelina Jolie adopt a whole African village than watch a woman have a single child she cannot afford.

    Besides...can't be too bad off if you own a computer to be here.
    I don't own a computer its a smartphone that I also use to apply for jobs and make appointments etc... My husband and I have never been unemployed before this and these last 2 months of looking for work has been hell. So maybe you should shove it.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsea View Post
    I don't own a computer its a smartphone that I also use to apply for jobs and make appointments etc... My husband and I have never been unemployed before this and these last 2 months of looking for work has been hell. So maybe you should shove it.
    Forgive my curiousity, but what industry do you and your husband have your work histories in? And is it the geographic pull-apart of the volatile job market that prohibits the 2 of you to get a new job?

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsea
    I don't own a computer its a smartphone that I also use to apply for jobs and make appointments etc...
    And how much do you pay for a smartphone? Monthly rates? Uh...yeah. Learn to cut back, sweetheart. Welfare is for people in need, not people in need of a lifestyle.

    My husband and I have never been unemployed before this and these last 2 months of looking for work has been hell.
    So you guys start a huge family while living paycheck to paycheck, saving very little money, and having all sorts of disposable income not being retained so that you can have all those cool tech toys like a phone that does everything. Allow me to break out the violins.

    So maybe you should shove it.
    Wouldn't wanna get you pregnant again. We've already determined that it would be an awful idea.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Forgive my curiousity, but what industry do you and your husband have your work histories in? And is it the geographic pull-apart of the volatile job market that prohibits the 2 of you to get a new job?
    I'm in healthcare, Medical Assisting and pharmacy tech, My husband worked at Chuck E Cheese in management for 5 years and was just given the "we are making cutbacks thanks fir your time here" speach last month.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    [QUOTE=Gipper;1061057469]And how much do you pay for a smartphone? Monthly rates? Uh...yeah. Learn to cut back, sweetheart. Welfare is for people in need, not people in need of a lifestyle.



    So you guys start a huge family while living paycheck to paycheck, saving very little money, and having all sorts of disposable income not being retained so that you can have all those cool tech toys like a phone that does everything. Allow me to break out the violins.

    Wouldn't wanna get you pregnant again. We've already determined that it would be an awful idea.[/QUOTE

    Well beginning of this year we had $9300 in the bank, put a down payment on the house, and worked a collective 90 hours a week. We both got laid off within a month of each other and have been looking for work since but have hit the bottom of our savings with rent, utilities, car insurance, and everything for the kids. Um I already paid for the phone last year and $35 from walmart talk and text is hardly breaking the bank when we have no chance of getting a job without a valid number.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    Heh I do the Straight Talk thing. I'm not about to give up a 17 inch screen to stare at a phone screen of what, 4 inches? But hey, that's me. So many Americans have to be "cutting edge".

    I can sympathize to the plight of many. Times are tough, and the economy is tougher. However, I've seen far too many people (not saying you, but just in general) that don't sacrifice...and by sacrifice, I mean truly sacrifice. I've been tight on money to the point where I eat hamburger instead of T-bone, do Straight Talk instead of some 100 buck a month cell phone bill (of course I do this because I'm cheap anyway, not because of money shortage), and other similar cutbacks.

    Sh*t happens. Sorry it happened to you. You apparently had a hell of a run of bad luck with both of those jobs ending at around the same time. Unfortunately, I see way, way too many people who don't want to let something like unemployment stop them from driving around in their Lexus to the Red Lobster and the mall afterward.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    It doesn't mean you should assume everyone is living that way though.

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    Re: If you can afford alcohol, drugs, iPhone etc you shouldn't get entitlements

    I will when the situation you described for yourself is the rule and not the exception.

    When you see people trading food stamps for smokes in the parking lot of a grocery store, or people buying better food than I usually eat with stamps, you become skeptical and judgmental too.

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