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Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

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Gipper said:
Oh, thanks for the clarification. You gave me a fake name I never heard of and cleared it up by giving me a real name I never heard of.

Also, be prepared to be mocked for watching True Blood.
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mock away, hot chicks get naked almost every episode so theres nothign to mock :D
 
objective-J said:
mock away, hot chicks get naked almost every episode so theres nothign to mock
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So you put up with infinite vampire-based banality for 10 seconds of titty? You are aware of the massive, massive world of free internet porn out there, right?

No man should have to deal with that much crap for such little pleasure. Maybe this is why I'm not married.
 
jamesrage said:
I voted no.But at the same time there are some idiot judges out there who will cite it Sharia law and laws should be put in place to ensure that judges only cite American law. There are only a handful of cases of judges citing sharia law but one of those cases involves a woman being denied a restraining order.
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hmmmmm

im not sure i understand you and im not aware of this

I dont have any problem with any judge citing anything, any law, any religion as long as what he is citing doesnt superseded american laws.

Is that even possible to happen without it being appealed and then it losing?

whats the example? I definitely agree with you though american law always taks top bar there is no other way
 
Gipper said:
So you put up with infinite vampire-based banality for 10 seconds of titty? You are aware of the massive, massive world of free internet porn out there, right?

No man should have to deal with that much crap for such little pleasure. Maybe this is why I'm not married.
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10sec?

you just proved you dont watch the show

theres been naked chick lesbian and fight scenes :D

its great! lol
 
Sharia law has never been implemented once, not once in this country. Name one single case of Sharia law, what court, which state, when, and WHICH specific law was it. there is not a handful of judges, there is not a single one. Scary storys from the far right to keep the RWnuts stirred up.
jamesrage said:
I voted no.But at the same time there are some idiot judges out there who will cite it Sharia law and laws should be put in place to ensure that judges only cite American law. There are only a handful of cases of judges citing sharia law but one of those cases involves a woman being denied a restraining order.
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Aderleth said:
Given that a thread about Sharia law has very quickly turned into a discussion of beer and hot chicks, I think the US is safe from that particular menace.
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Just like a thread about potential attacks by a Saudi millionaire on the NYC skyline would have been laughed at before 9/11/01 even after OBL issued a declaration of war on the USA in an interview with then ABC news reporter, Jon miller in 1997, iirc.
 
Objective-J said:
hmmmmm

im not sure i understand you and im not aware of this
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There is a New Jersy case where judge cites sharia law to deny a woman a restraining order,a Pennsylvanian case where a judge cites Sharia law in letting go some thugs who assaulted a man because he said something that 'offended Islam'.

New Jersey Family Judge Accepts 'Sharia Defense' to Excuse Spousal Rape - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com
Sharia in Pennsylvania: Muslim Attacks Infidel, Muslim Judges Rules for Attacker - YouTube!
 
jamesrage said:
I voted no.But at the same time there are some idiot judges out there who will cite it Sharia law and laws should be put in place to ensure that judges only cite American law. There are only a handful of cases of judges citing sharia law but one of those cases involves a woman being denied a restraining order.
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I suspect you're talking about this:

"The Sharia scaremongers often rely on a single New Jersey case, S.D. v. M.J.R., as proof that Islamic law is seeping into our court system. In it, a wife sought a restraining order against her husband, alleging that he repeatedly beat and sexually assaulted her. The judge denied her request, holding that the defendant did not form the criminal intent necessary to commit the crime, because his genuine religious beliefs dictated that he was entitled to sexual relations upon demand. The ruling was wrong—both under state law and Sharia—and, not surprisingly, the New Jersey Appellate Court reversed it in 2010." - The True Story of Sharia in American Courts | The Nation


There are actually tons of cases involving Sharia and other forms of religious law in the US, and if we allow people the freedom to contract, it can never be any other way. There's no particular reasons to single out Sharia for special negative treatment when it's currently treated exactly the same as other sources of religious authority in the US.
 
marsden said:
Just like a thread about potential attacks by a Saudi millionaire on the NYC skyline would have been laughed at before 9/11/01 even after OBL issued a declaration of war on the USA in an interview with then ABC news reporter, Jon miller in 1997, iirc.
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Not really like that at all, no.
 
lizzie said:
But the real point is that congressional and/or presidential action would precede this, and I have serious doubts that this would be the case.
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I'm suggesting that the adaptation of Sharia Law could start on a State level insted of being adapted at the Federal level and the SOCTUS could uphold it by not taking up the case if was approved at an Appellate Court. I do not know of any big movement made at the Federal level that was not started first at the State level. So if it comes to acceptance of Sharia or any other movement it would have to start at the State level
 
jamesrage said:
There is a New Jersy case where judge cites sharia law to deny a woman a restraining order,a Pennsylvanian case where a judge cites Sharia law in letting go some thugs who assaulted a man because he said something that 'offended Islam'.

New Jersey Family Judge Accepts 'Sharia Defense' to Excuse Spousal Rape - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com
Sharia in Pennsylvania: Muslim Attacks Infidel, Muslim Judges Rules for Attacker - YouTube!
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this makes me worry about ****ty judges though not sharia law, thats always been a concern sharia law doesnt change that for me

the NJ one was thrown out
and ill have to look up the other on, im guessing it get easily upheld and not thrown out if the victim proceeds to go legal action.
 
And you can be sure that Obama's dhimmi-like show of arrestingbthe producer of the anti-Islamic film was not missed by Islamists around the world as well as here in the USA.

It doesn't matter that he was arrested on a parole violation or whatever it was. The important thing to BO and the Islamists was that he was punished and imprisoned by the US govt.

This is a kind of appeasement and it will only embolden those who wish to weaken this government and this society.

Step by step.
 
objective-J said:
theres been naked chick lesbian and fight scenes
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Watching HBO for porn is like going to the county fair for a roller coaster.

I'm a favorites button click away from millions of things better than the soft-core fanservice that gets put up on premium channels.

It harkens me back to the day when I used to get up in the middle of the night and watch scrambled HBO in an attempt to see a nipple through the blurriness. Back then, it was all I could get. 10 year olds couldn't buy Playboy, and internet porn wasn't saturated in today's everyday happenings in the 80s.

Sometimes I feel like one of these old grumps, complaining about how things were different when I was a kid. Ah, to be growing up today, being just a website away from suitable fap material.
 
Gipper said:
Watching HBO for porn is like going to the county fair for a roller coaster.

I'm a favorites button click away from millions of things better than the soft-core fanservice that gets put up on premium channels.

It harkens me back to the day when I used to get up in the middle of the night and watch scrambled HBO in an attempt to see a nipple through the blurriness. Back then, it was all I could get. 10 year olds couldn't buy Playboy, and internet porn wasn't saturated in today's everyday happenings in the 80s.

Sometimes I feel like one of these old grumps, complaining about how things were different when I was a kid. Ah, to be growing up today, being just a website away from suitable fap material.
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hahahaha who said I watch HBO for porn? now you are just making stuff up.

half the list of redheads i gave you were pron stars so obviously i have many avenues :D
 
Oh. You watch True Blood for the...plot? Yeah, I must ready you for ridicule as mentioned earlier.

And I wasn't aware that porn stars had names. You give them names, and it's just a matter of time before they want rights and opinions.
 
If you guys have a single sharia law upheld in this country a single time just post the Court, the date, the case and which law it was. I have never looked up a single case that really was sharia law, and the conservative blogoshpere makes it ver difficult to look things up. So if there really has been a case, I would be very interested in reading it, er the court record, not the wing nut blogoshpere.
 
Gipper said:
Oh. You watch True Blood for the...plot? Yeah, I must ready you for ridicule as mentioned earlier.

And I wasn't aware that porn stars had names. You give them names, and it's just a matter of time before they want rights and opinions.
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hahahahahaha
yes they have many many names and i know quite a few lol
 
Aderleth said:
I suspect you're talking about this:

"The Sharia scaremongers often rely on a single New Jersey case, S.D. v. M.J.R., as proof that Islamic law is seeping into our court system. In it, a wife sought a restraining order against her husband, alleging that he repeatedly beat and sexually assaulted her. The judge denied her request, holding that the defendant did not form the criminal intent necessary to commit the crime, because his genuine religious beliefs dictated that he was entitled to sexual relations upon demand. The ruling was wrong—both under state law and Sharia—and, not surprisingly, the New Jersey Appellate Court reversed it in 2010." - The True Story of Sharia in American Courts | The Nation
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Luckily in that decision was reversed in time before the guy decided to beat the hell out of that woman or worse.


There are actually tons of cases involving Sharia and other forms of religious law in the US, and if we allow people the freedom to contract, it can never be any other way. There's no particular reasons to single out Sharia for special negative treatment when it's currently treated exactly the same as other sources of religious authority in the US.
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As long as it doesn't violate US law you should be able to impose any terms you want in a contract and those terms are written in that contract. A judge rulling on that contract would only be ruling on that contract..
 
Objective-J said:
again tolerance and acceptance are very different than throwing away rights, freedoms, liberties and the constitution

if you think people are vigilant against christian influence right now id say thats because theres more wide spread influence, wouldnt you agree?

im not worried about it on the left right or center, no logical reason to
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The problem is recognizing the threat that Sharia Law means. Do they know that it is not consistent their beliefs as liberals? Do they understand that a adherent of Sharia Law being a member of a "minority" doesn't mean that they should be included a special protected group since neo-nazis are a minority also and liberals would not support them (I hope). How soon would the "left" see it as a true threat? When the Sharia adherents are rioting in the streets?

I do not believe it is an immediate threat nor do I believe it is a near term threat it is something that could occur after 20 years of idulging the existence of Sharia.
 
Not even one law in one court. The problem is not us ignorant libs that are just to dumb to understand, it has never happened and wont in this country. It is just a scary story to scare you guys.
Shadow Serious said:
The problem is recognizing the threat that Sharia Law means. Do they know that it is not consistent their beliefs as liberals? Do they understand that a adherent of Sharia Law being a member of a "minority" doesn't mean that they should be included a special protected group since neo-nazis are a minority also and liberals would not support them (I hope). How soon would the "left" see it as a true threat? When the Sharia adherents are rioting in the streets?

I do not believe it is an immediate threat nor do I believe it is a near term threat it is something that could occur after 20 years of idulging the existence of Sharia.
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