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Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?


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nice dodge, very insightful

im not the liar :D

You may not be THE liar. But are you A liar?

Of course you are.

Show me someone alive who doesn't.

Besides Mitt.
 
Dude, I'm not the leader you are looking for. I am a sentry and I'm sounding the alarm here. Google "stealth Jihad" and start reading.

Then you tell us what YOU think should be done.

Stealth Jihad is so stealth that even when told about it people seem to miss it... boggles the mind, but there it is.
 
You may not be THE liar. But are you A liar?

Of course you are.

Show me someone alive who doesn't.

Besides Mitt.

wow, I think you are off your meds
 
Sounds kind of wingnut to me. Really off the wall. Be specific, and provide actual verifiable evidence. :coffeepap

I have posted a lot of information about it and it was just ignored... why bother. Start with Stealth Jihad and go from there.
 
I am... that is for sure. Just finished my affidavit too. My ex is gonna freak. :lol:

niiiiiice lol i already wished you good luck but good luck again!!!
 
Sounds kind of wingnut to me. Really off the wall. Be specific, and provide actual verifiable evidence. :coffeepap

Did you expect to get another trooper to jump out the plane for you?

Do your own homework, pal.

That way you'll believe it.

If I serve it to you you might not believe it or remember it or value it or even bother reading it.

Nah, this is too important to risk.

YOU look it up for yourself.
 
niiiiiice lol i already wished you good luck but good luck again!!!

I know... all good. I a just a talker. Or typer in this case since I am at the library...
 
That doesn't answer the question.

Anything that can be fixed in a city with a 911 call cannot be fixed quickly if the two sheriffs on duty are 45 minutes away or the volunteer fire department is somewhere else. Take your choice--intruder, UFO, domestic violence, somebody not breathing....
 
Did you expect to get another trooper to jump out the plane for you?

Do your own homework, pal.

That way you'll believe it.

If I serve it to you you might not believe it or remember it or value it or even bother reading it.

Nah, this is too important to risk.

YOU look it up for yourself.

I expect that the person who makes a claims supports that claim. This is basic.
 
I know... all good. I a just a talker. Or typer in this case since I am at the library...

no biggie, well have fun, I gotta get out here and "geek" it up

got a new computer coming and im totally reformatting the bedroom, new desk, new entertainment stand so i got disconnect and ill be down probably the rest of the night.
 
Stealth Jihad is so stealth that even when told about it people seem to miss it... boggles the mind, but there it is.

Exactly. Good to see you, Bodhi.
 
I expect that the person who makes a claims supports that claim. This is basic.

Your choice.

Follow up on a tip and become better informed or remain uninformed.
 
That's how you act/post.

And you deserve no apology.

Grow a pair.
I dared you to put up the post number and quote where I equated Islam with the civil rights movement and this is the best you can do?
Bwahahahahaha!!!!
Apparently I have a big pair so can I stick it into your "lady parts"?
 
Oh my, I am afraid we have crossed deep into "Protocols of the Elders of Califate" territory.
 
So what is YOUR point?I'll ask you the same question I asked Mardsen?
What do you suggest we do about it that's not already being done by our own government?

That is different from what you've asked me.

Our govenment has not clearly come to grips with the necessarily and definitely NOT politically correct assessment of Islam and Islamism. It will take wisdom, insight and courage to come up with a definition of Islam and Islamism. Until then it will remain as just one more difference between Libs and Cons that smart adversaries will use to exploit us and our system of laws to achieve their goals.
 
I dared you to put up the post number and quote where I equated Islam with the civil rights movement and this is the best you can do?
Bwahahahahaha!!!!
Apparently I have a big pair so can I stick it into your "lady parts"?

You can take the ahem, guy out of the gutter but you can't take the gutter out of the ahem, guy.
 
That is different from what you've asked me.

Our govenment has not clearly come to grips with the necessarily and definitely NOT politically correct assessment of Islam and Islamism. It will take wisdom, insight and courage to come up with a definition of Islam and Islamism. Until then it will remain as just one more difference between Libs and Cons that smart adversaries will use to exploit us and our system of laws to achieve their goals.
And you still haven't answered the question.
You're still dancing around not giving anything concrete about what YOU would do.

So what are YOUR definitions of ISLAM and ISLAMISM?
 
You can take the ahem, guy out of the gutter but you can't take the gutter out of the ahem, guy.

And you seem to be very acquainted with the gutter,I see.
 
McCarthy cried wolf... marsden isn't.

of course he is.

You can say McCarthy cried wolf, but that is 20/20 hindsight. YOu obviously aren't aware of the horrendous damage that he did to america. To the blatant abuses of the constitution he and Cohn perpetrated on innocent americans. It all started with a general fear of commies and he picked it up and ran with it a delusional attempt to "cleanse" america of its enemies. He got as far as he did, because only a few people had the balls to stand up to him, the most prominent being Murrow.


IN today's environment with the 24/7 news cycle, it would be impossible

He is actually advocating for suspension of the constitution, if he ever gets over his paranoia to consider it actually means.

This is nonsense plain and simple.

The notion that Islamist could gain any kind of foothold in the US is ludicrous.
 
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And you still haven't answered the question.
You're still dancing around not giving anything concrete about what YOU would do.

So what are YOUR definitions of ISLAM and ISLAMISM?

An Islamist is someone who takes the Koran's final commandments as his marchingorders. A fundamentalist.

Islam?

Surrender. Islam means to surrender.
 
An Islamist is someone who takes the Koran's final commandments as his marchingorders. A fundamentalist.

Islam?

Surrender. Islam means to surrender.
Seems you kind of skimped on the second part.
All you gave was a brief dictionary definition of what the word ISLAM means.But you really haven't said anything about what Islam MEANS to it's followers.
Now how do you suggest we keep out the former from coming into this country and doing without discriminating against the latter?
 
of course he is.

You can say McCarthy cried wolf, but that is 20/20 hindsight. YOu obviously aren't aware of the horrendous damage that he did to america. To the blatant abuses of the constitution he and Cohn perpetrated on innocent americans. It all started with a general fear of commies and he picked it up and ran with it a delusional attempt to "cleanse" america of its enemies. He got as far as he did, because only a few people had the balls to stand up to him, the most prominent being Murrow.


IN today's environment with the 24/7 news cycle, it would be impossible

He is actually advocating for suspension of the constitution, if he ever gets over his paranoia to consider it actually means.

This is nonsense plain and simple.

The notion that Islamist could gain any kind of foothold in the US is ludicrous.


“The portrayal of Senator Joe McCarthy as a wild-eyed demagogue destroying innocent lives is sheer liberal hobgoblinism. Liberals weren’t cowering in fear during the McCarthy era. They were systematically undermining the nation’s ability to defend itself while waging a bellicose campaign of lies to blacken McCarthy’s name. Everything you think you know about McCarthy is a hegemonic lie. Liberals denounced McCarthy because they were afraid of getting caught, so they fought back like animals to hide their own collaboration with a regime as evil as the Nazis.” — Ann Coulter, P. 10
 
I'd like to say a few things for the record, for that I won't get accused of defending or appeasing islamism:

Of course Islamism is a problem. And even among those Muslims who don't turn to violent organizations, there is an interpretation of Islam prevalent that's very hard to reconcile with Western values. Sharia is not compatible with Western values, no matter if it's a die-hard Salafist variant or a more lenient one. Unfortunately, way too many Muslims still cling to literalist ("fundamentalist") interpretations of Islam, according to which only Muslims go to heaven no matter what they do, and non-Muslims go to hell. God is a angry, punishing God who expects nothing but obedience, not a loving God. Mere belief is considered more important than actions. Because of that, many Muslims focus more on superficial symbols and rituals, than real spirituality.

Unlike in Christianity or Judaism, thoughts of humanism or enlightenment have not influenced theology on a broad scale (yet), most Muslim schools don't use historization to interpret Quran. Hence orthodox and fundamentalist interpretations of Islam divide the world into the umma of believers and the outside, taking unbelievers as friends is not allowed, jihad is obligation (although there are different interpretations if that really means using weapons and violence), there is no freedom of religion as apostasy deserves death. Orthodox and fundamentalist interpretations of Islam are not just a religion, but a religious-political ideology with totalitarian streaks.

There are a few attempts to open Muslim theology for modernization, as for example in the Ankara school, which introduced historical hermeneutics to interpret Quran.

That said, not all Muslims are brainwashed disciples of their religious teachers. There is a considerable diversity in Muslim countries. They are humans, after all, and religion does not necessarily play an important role in their lives. Many simply observe the rules due to societal pressure, fear and tradition. In many regions, there are strong regional traditions in contradiction with Quran, which still have survived up to today. And as Muslims are humans too, you find many people who don't take everything at face value what their imams tell them. Most are not actively violent. In some placed, they live peacefully side by side with members of other religions. In some places, the rules are stricter than in others. In some countries, you find strong nationalism or political ideology competing with religion, in other places archaic tribal affiliations. The degree of economic development and education varies very much too, from one Muslim country to the next.

So I am convinced, while Islam may be a problem, "the Muslims" are not. Some of them are, of course, and as far as I can see, they are dealt with accordingly. But no need to paint them all with the same broad brush.

I'll hope and pray that modern interpretations of Quran and understandings of Islam, which are well compatible with human rights and Western values, will gain more popularity among Muslims. As I see it, it's only a matter of time.
 
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