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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I'd imagine all decent people are horrified at these appalling acts of violence against women that occur in the ME, but they don't occur (IMO) because of the religious beliefs of the people there. Human rights violations are always worse in countries that lack such features of first world nations are industrialization, public education, a significant middle class, etc. I don't see much difference between a woman being stoned to death for some "violation" of religious law (as interpreted by some cult leader) and a baby girl left to die of exposure in China because of the "one child" law.

    In the US, the factors that create a danger to women in the ME Muslim nations cannot be replicated. Does that mean there'll never be a death by stoning here? Certainly not -- murders happen here every day. But we do have law and order, and we do punish law breakers even if they fervently believe their actions were dictated by God.

    There's only one sizable Muslim community in the US that I know about -- in Detroit. I lived there, decades ago, and it was scarey to be hassled by gaggles of young Muslim men -- but I felt the cops would step in and protect me if it got too bad. IMO, this is where European nations fell down on the job -- when they began to see street crime by Muslim youths, they tried appeasement rather than stepping up enforcement. I honestly do not think such a thing could happen here. If ever I thought it was, I'd be right there with you, fighting against it.

    i think the problem would be, that by the time we got to the point where sharia law was being actively utilized, the justice system/police would be so infiltrated by islam that they'd cease to function in their role of protectors as you describe. your example of detroit disturbs me, it seems my fears are already being put into practice, albeit in an isolated locale on the other side of the country. in addition, i have to say this after your statement regarding being protected by the police:

    protect yourself! if you're not a handgun owner/not familiar with handguns, there are many classes offered by the NRA nation-wide. in addition, if you don't have it, consider getting your concealed-carry license if applicable. there's an old saying that i saw posted on this forum a bit ago which applies: when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. not that i advocate shooting muslims for leering at you, but situations escalate and i'd rather be surrounded by 50 men with my pistol, than by 3 men without.

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php that's the website i generally use when purchasing firearms, if nothing else it's a good catalog to browse .

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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by roflpublican View Post
    i think the problem would be, that by the time we got to the point where sharia law was being actively utilized, the justice system/police would be so infiltrated by islam that they'd cease to function in their role of protectors as you describe. your example of detroit disturbs me, it seems my fears are already being put into practice, albeit in an isolated locale on the other side of the country. in addition, i have to say this after your statement regarding being protected by the police:

    protect yourself! if you're not a handgun owner/not familiar with handguns, there are many classes offered by the NRA nation-wide. in addition, if you don't have it, consider getting your concealed-carry license if applicable. there's an old saying that i saw posted on this forum a bit ago which applies: when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. not that i advocate shooting muslims for leering at you, but situations escalate and i'd rather be surrounded by 50 men with my pistol, than by 3 men without.

    Discount Guns for Sale - Buds Gun Shop that's the website i generally use when purchasing firearms, if nothing else it's a good catalog to browse .
    I'm not likely to be leered at these days -- I'm 59 years old. The phenomena is something this country has dealt with, successfully, with virtually every wave of immigration (and no one expects a ton of people from the ME to emigrate to the US anytime soon). I'd felt it before, as I grew up in New York and was used to being near gaggles of young Puerto Rican men (who aren't immigrants, but behave in similar ways when they first arrive here).

    The Detroit area Muslim community is decades old, has never been a criminal problem and presents no threat to its neighbors. My point in mentioning it is, these are mainly people who fled Iran after the Shah was overthrown -- in the 1970's. They had money and education and thus, the ability to move here en masse. Those circumstances are not likely to be repeated.

    By contrast, European nations see waves of immigrants from the ME who are temporary residents, seeking employment, or otherwise young men without their families. It's very hard, once residency is established in any EU nation, to control that person's movement inside any other EU nation -- again, not conditions that can occur here.

    I say this with great compassion, roflrepublican: bigotry against American Muslims is far more serious a threat than lawbreaking by American Muslims will ever be. The ladies I spoke of are usually my age. I'm not proud that anyone's grandma is afraid to be out alone in my neighborhood during the day just because some of my neighbors are racist idijits.

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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    Im asking this question because of some of the people I have encountered that want extra laws made banning it and they say they would never vote for ANY Muslim politician because of it.

    SO I ask, do you fear Sharia Law and think its a possibility here in the US.

    I do not.
    It can be established here, believe that.

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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I'm not likely to be leered at these days -- I'm 59 years old. The phenomena is something this country has dealt with, successfully, with virtually every wave of immigration (and no one expects a ton of people from the ME to emigrate to the US anytime soon). I'd felt it before, as I grew up in New York and was used to being near gaggles of young Puerto Rican men (who aren't immigrants, but behave in similar ways when they first arrive here).

    The Detroit area Muslim community is decades old, has never been a criminal problem and presents no threat to its neighbors. My point in mentioning it is, these are mainly people who fled Iran after the Shah was overthrown -- in the 1970's. They had money and education and thus, the ability to move here en masse. Those circumstances are not likely to be repeated.

    By contrast, European nations see waves of immigrants from the ME who are temporary residents, seeking employment, or otherwise young men without their families. It's very hard, once residency is established in any EU nation, to control that person's movement inside any other EU nation -- again, not conditions that can occur here.

    I say this with great compassion, roflrepublican: bigotry against American Muslims is far more serious a threat than lawbreaking by American Muslims will ever be. The ladies I spoke of are usually my age. I'm not proud that anyone's grandma is afraid to be out alone in my neighborhood during the day just because some of my neighbors are racist idijits.
    while on the one hand i know that such bigotry against them will only lead them to increased violence/lawbreaking, on the other i'm wary of as you mentioned previously, the policy of appeasement. it's a fine line to travel, i'd hate to be the one actually responsible for treading it, because i doubt i could. also, it's relatively easy to move about the US, i just recently drove from erie PA back to Tampa FL and never encountered any 'borderchecks' so i don't see the distinction you're making between resident mobility in the EU as opposed to the US unless i'm missing something thanks to this blue moon harvest pump ale?

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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I see more danger of Conservative Christians trying to enact their versions of Sharia.
    You see that because you're over indulged and don't understand what's really out there. Sharia would stomp all over your sense of freedom and literally saw your head off for protesting over it. Now tell me, liberal, does that happen to you now in this country? You don't know how good you have it.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Forcing children of incest and rape victims to bear their attackers children is very "Sharia" like. Subjugating women is at the heart of Sharia.
    Preserving life is more important than your agenda of death. I'm sorry. There's too much bull**** surrounding the rape thing. First of all, pregnancy from rape is rare, and second, females often lie about being raped, in the first place. There are all kinds of options you can take without willfully slaughtering your unborn. Grooming young women for a sexual lifestyle is very "liberal" like, and is at the heart of liberalism.

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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    You see that because you're over indulged and don't understand what's really out there. Sharia would stomp all over your sense of freedom and literally saw your head off for protesting over it. Now tell me, liberal, does that happen to you now in this country? You don't know how good you have it.

    Preserving life is more important than your agenda of death. I'm sorry. There's too much bull**** surrounding the rape thing. First of all, pregnancy from rape is rare, and second, females often lie about being raped, in the first place. There are all kinds of options you can take without willfully slaughtering your unborn. Grooming young women for a sexual lifestyle is very "liberal" like, and is at the heart of liberalism.
    Thank you for proving my point. I ask you what is so different? Stoning a womwn to death because she is accused of adultery or forcing a womwn to bear a rapists child?
    Wake up, you and your ilk are our religious radicals and radicals of any religion are all pretty much the same.

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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Thank you for proving my point.
    You stated that Conservative Christianity is more dangerous than Sharia and I explained how you are wrong. I didn't prove your point. You didn't even prove your point. You never had a point to begin with.

    Study the issues, igunaman. You can't just parrot what you hear on the streets and expect to be taken seriously.

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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    You stated that Conservative Christianity is more dangerous than Sharia and I explained how you are wrong. I didn't prove your point. You didn't even prove your point. You never had a point to begin with.

    Study the issues, igunaman. You can't just parrot what you hear on the streets and expect to be taken seriously.
    no he NEVER stated that! he stated how theres more of a danger of religious right extremist being in power more than extremist Muslims

    he never compared how dangerous they are to eachother

    so YES you did prove his point for him
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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    You stated that Conservative Christianity is more dangerous than Sharia and I explained how you are wrong. I didn't prove your point. You didn't even prove your point. You never had a point to begin with.

    Study the issues, igunaman. You can't just parrot what you hear on the streets and expect to be taken seriously.
    I said that Radical Religious sects are all the same. They all seek to degrade women and take away their rights. They all claim to speak for "God" and do despicable things in his name. Even you will admit that Conservative Christian are more likely than Muslims to get their way in "Christian" America.

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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    no he NEVER stated that!
    Let's examine the original quote, shall we?

    "I see more danger of Conservative Christians trying to enact their versions of Sharia".

    He's saying that Conservative Christianity is a version of Sharia (which is total bull****) and that is more dangerous. What did you get from that piece?
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