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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Sharia law? No

    Christian religious law? Yes

    In reality there is not much of a difference.
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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Banks have been doing Sharia-compliant mortgages for quite some time.

    I'd really like to see an argument as to why it is Constitutional to allow Rabbinical law to be practiced but not Sharia in the aspects of secular finance.
    In the area of secular finance, if both parties agree to it, then I don't see why not. In fact, if both parties can agree to Sharia or Rabbinical arbitration in civil law case, and the eventual ruling does not conflict with secular law, then I don't see a problem. But both parties must agree to it. Both in the situation of criminal law, say in the hypothetical murder case of Georgia vs. John Doe, the state cannot agree to religious law of any kind.
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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    1.)The Christianist nonsense about Christian countries banning Islam is unconstitutionally insane.

    2.)Sharia is used in the USA right now, between Muslim Americans, perfectly legally and entirely unremarkably. It's not only possibility, it's a fixture.
    1.) I agree 100%
    2.) yes among people it is but what im talking about it will never be a reality where american law follows it, thats my point. people can practice anything they want behind closed doors or even in public but if that violates american law then its an issue.
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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    In the area of secular finance, if both parties agree to it, then I don't see why not. In fact, if both parties can agree to Sharia or Rabbinical arbitration in civil law case, and the eventual ruling does not conflict with secular law, then I don't see a problem.
    Well, that's how Rabbinical works. Both parties must agree to it and the Rabbinical outcome must not violate any existing secular law. I don't see why, constitutionally, how we can bar Sharia from the same practice. That's a blatant violation of the first amendment otherwise.

    the state cannot agree to religious law of any kind.
    The state cannot agree to a religious law where that religious law contradicts the secular law in any regard.
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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Well, that's how Rabbinical works. Both parties must agree to it and the Rabbinical outcome must not violate any existing secular law. I don't see why, constitutionally, how we can bar Sharia from the same practice. That's a blatant violation of the first amendment otherwise.

    The state cannot agree to a religious law where that religious law contradicts the secular law in any regard.
    There we go. So long as Sharia stays within these constraints, there's no problem. If any Sharia practitioner thinks they're going to get more than that, they're dreaming.
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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    There we go. So long as Sharia stays within these constraints, there's no problem. If any Sharia practitioner thinks they're going to get more than that, they're dreaming.
    Well, we've kept Rabbinical law essentially in a box for decades. I don't see why we can't do that with Islamic, or any particular religious legal system.

    What we cannot do however, is outlaw all Sharia without openly violated the Bill of Rights. And that is what several posters here are advocating for.

    I'd love to see one of them try to argue that it is Constitutional to allow Rabbinical but not Sharia in the aspects we allow Rabbinical.
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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Well, we've kept Rabbinical law essentially in a box for decades. I don't see why we can't do that with Islamic, or any particular religious legal system.

    What we cannot do however, is outlaw all Sharia without openly violated the Bill of Rights. And that is what several posters here are advocating for.

    I'd love to see one of them try to argue that it is Constitutional to allow Rabbinical but not Sharia in the aspects we allow Rabbinical.
    Yes, I've seen that and I've seen states pass anti-sharia laws like they did in Kansas. It's not only unconstitutional, it strikes me as charging at windmills. The US in general is staunchly and actively against mixing church and state. That's church of any kind including Christian, and this is a predominantly Christian country. So the notion that Sharia would have a snowball's chance of infusing itself into US law is preposterous. Worrying about it so much strikes as manic. It's much like the guy who has eight dead-bolts on his door and a tin hat to block the mind control waves. It's getting far too stressed out over something that our government is built to prevent from the very beginning.
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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    I worry more about Christian Law being forced onto the citizens of the United States much more than a minuscule minority of Muslims forcing Sharia law onto the citizens of the United States.

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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    All you people who think Muslims pose no threat to this country wake up amd look around....Look at all the other Muslim Nations that have Sharia Law. How many of them are really our friends?....You can count them on one hand and if we did not give them billions of dollars there would be even less. Even in countries like England and France where they have huge Muslim populations have problems......Like I said before Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. I believe right now we have 1 Muslim in Congress...That could change quickly. Please think about it.....It could happen.
    All you people who think Christians pose no threat to this country wake up amd look around....Look at all the other Christian Nations that have Christian Law. How many of them are really our friends?....You can count them on one hand and if we did not give them billions of dollars there would be even less. Even in countries like England and France where they have huge Christian populations have problems......Like I said before Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world. I believe right now we have 1 Christian in Congress...That could change quickly. Please think about it.....It could happen.

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    Re: Do think Sharia Law is a REAL possiblity in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    You seem to lack basic reading comprehension skills, David. Mayhaps read the Op again without allowing the words "Muslim", "Islam" or "Sharia Law" to catch your hair on fire, and see if you might not agree?

    Or is American freedom of religion just not an idea you can get behind?
    How about Freedom of Speech? Yes, and let me attack the straw man called "Uneducated if you don't agree with me"

    this is what was in the OP:
    "Im asking this question because of some of the people I have encountered that want extra laws made banning it and they say they would never vote for ANY Muslim politician because of it.

    SO I ask, do you fear Sharia Law and think its a possibility here in the US.

    I do not."

    He's not just asking if you think its a possibility, because if you do (which I believe almost everything to be POSSIBLE, plausible is another story) then you automatically agree to "fearing Sharia law". Its a trap, take off your blinders.

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