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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    what does that have to do with voting for a qualified muslim?
    also the constitution already protects us from "political islam"
    and what do you mean you want the government to keep the number of muslims low as possible in america
    and a QUALIFIED muslim potus doesnt do anything to empower the extremist you are talking about, in fact it hurts them
    We all have disreputable associates or friends or relatives. This is also true for nice Muslims. If there are more Muslims in America it stands to reason there would be more disreputable Muslims.

    Who might some of these disreputable Muslims be? Some of them would be fundamentalists, Islamists.

    Islamists depend on being more or less hidden from scrutiny.

    The more nice muslims there are, the more the Islamists can hide amongst them.

    Having a Muslim POtUS would send a clear message to muslims everywhere and of every stripe, "WELCOME!"

    Muslim populations in america would increase. Islamist activities, covert and in the open, would increase.

    All the while we would naively try to maintain an unreasonable and inappropriate hospitality toward any Muslim doing virtually any thing short of outright terrorism because we have no way of easily discerning the good guys from the bad guys.

    Look at the supposed

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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    We all have disreputable associates or friends or relatives. This is also true for nice Muslims. If there are more Muslims in America it stands to reason there would be more disreputable Muslims.

    Who might some of these disreputable Muslims be? Some of them would be fundamentalists, Islamists.

    Islamists depend on being more or less hidden from scrutiny.

    The more nice muslims there are, the more the Islamists can hide amongst them.

    Having a Muslim POtUS would send a clear message to muslims everywhere and of every stripe, "WELCOME!"

    Muslim populations in america would increase. Islamist activities, covert and in the open, would increase.

    All the while we would naively try to maintain an unreasonable and inappropriate hospitality toward any Muslim doing virtually any thing short of outright terrorism because we have no way of easily discerning the good guys from the bad guys.

    Look at the supposed
    The opposite would happen the real Muslims would help weed out the extremists. There is far more right wing terrorism in America therefore you should not vote for a right wing president either because how are you supposed to tell the terrorists form the non-terrorists.

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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    We all have disreputable associates or friends or relatives. This is also true for nice Muslims. If there are more Muslims in America it stands to reason there would be more disreputable Muslims.

    Who might some of these disreputable Muslims be? Some of them would be fundamentalists, Islamists.

    Islamists depend on being more or less hidden from scrutiny.

    The more nice muslims there are, the more the Islamists can hide amongst them.

    Having a Muslim POtUS would send a clear message to muslims everywhere and of every stripe, "WELCOME!"

    Muslim populations in america would increase. Islamist activities, covert and in the open, would increase.

    All the while we would naively try to maintain an unreasonable and inappropriate hospitality toward any Muslim doing virtually any thing short of outright terrorism because we have no way of easily discerning the good guys from the bad guys.

    Look at the supposed

    what you are talking about is true for all people not just muslims LOL all good and bad people

    and how would having a muslim president send a "clear" message to muslims of "every strip" they are welcome? thats dumb

    if the president is QUALIFIED and does his job there is no message that law breakers are welcome and then what actually happens is that SOME, certainly not all, that are feed or believe the message that is America is so evil wouldnt believe so anymore because they woudl see a normal muslim, non-extremist lives a free life in america like everyone else.

    and if what you are saying is true how come that doesnt happen with every president then?

    im talking reality

    anyway are you advocating not letting any more muslims in to the nation?
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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Sorry, post was cut short...

    Supposedly upstanding organization, CAIR, which is suspected of being merely a front for Islamism in America.

    Or, look at the organizations being uncovered by the govt. as front organizations for terror groups or funding arms of terror groups.

    Then, look at how Muslim population % has historically signalled different activities and tactics by Muslims wihin a non-Islamic majority society.

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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Sorry, post was cut short...

    Supposedly upstanding organization, CAIR, which is suspected of being merely a front for Islamism in America.

    Or, look at the organizations being uncovered by the govt. as front organizations for terror groups or funding arms of terror groups.

    Then, look at how Muslim population % has historically signalled different activities and tactics by Muslims wihin a non-Islamic majority society.
    again none of that means anything to me, the Klan still exists, extremest black panthers (all 3 of them), skin heads, extreme feminist, extreme christians etc

    does that mean we shouldnt vote for white candiadtes, christians, women and blacks too?

    no it doesnt because that would be dumb
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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    The opposite would happen the real Muslims would help weed out the extremists. There is far more right wing terrorism in America therefore you should not vote for a right wing president either because how are you supposed to tell the terrorists form the non-terrorists.
    Look at how twisted the Liberals and Progressives thinking is. They see Conservativism as the enemy and they view adherents of a system of laws and government cloaked as a religion, which appx 20% of it's followers interpret as commanding them to kill us and enslave us and take over our governments and dominate our religions as the friend who should be encouraged and protected over all else.

    You guys are truly weird.

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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Look at how twisted the Liberals and Progressives thinking is. They see Conservativism as the enemy and they view adherents of a system of laws and government cloaked as a religion, which appx 20% of it's followers interpret as commanding them to kill us and enslave us and take over our governments and dominate our religions as the friend who should be encouraged and protected over all else.

    You guys are truly weird.
    Im not Observer92 but IMO I think he was being sarcastic and pointing out the irrational audacity of your post, I dont think he honestly believes that all conservatives are terrorists LOL

    but again you'll have to ask him im just guessing
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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Look at how twisted the Liberals and Progressives thinking is. They see Conservativism as the enemy and they view adherents of a system of laws and government cloaked as a religion, which appx 20% of it's followers interpret as commanding them to kill us and enslave us and take over our governments and dominate our religions as the friend who should be encouraged and protected over all else.

    You guys are truly weird.
    I'm juts showing your hypocrisy. I would also to prove that 20% want to kill Americans I am yet to hear of Muslims who want to kill and enslave Americans beside Al-Qaeda.

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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    again none of that means anything to me, the Klan still exists, extremest black panthers (all 3 of them), skin heads, extreme feminist, extreme christians etc

    does that mean we shouldnt vote for white candiadtes, christians, women and blacks too?

    no it doesnt because that would be dumb
    Do you know shix from Shinola?

    I'm not your sterreotypical, monolithic, knuckle dragging, bigoted right winger.

    I have spent a great many hours reading about Islam and Islamism and the threat it posed to other societies which underestimated their capabilities or misread, for a variety of reasons, their (Islamist leaders') intentions.

    Until we have a way of preventing our voters from misguidedly voting for Shariah law to be implemented in this country, we need to be ever vigilant of the potential and actual gains being made here to increase the power and influence of Islamists.

    That includes the hugely important symbolism of voting for a muslim president.

    I'll mention, once again, the story of the tender hearted woman who brought a snake into the warm cabin, saving it from freezing, whereupon the snake fatally bit her. She cried, how could you do this to me, the one who saved your life? The reptile replied with a grin, you knew darned well I was a snake before you brought me in.

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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    I'm juts showing your hypocrisy. I would also to prove that 20% want to kill Americans I am yet to hear of Muslims who want to kill and enslave Americans beside Al-Qaeda.
    Al Qaeda is just one of the Islamist groups. These Islamists can operate in within any number of Islamist groups. Hezbollah, Hamas, Abu Saif and hundreds of others. Or, they needn't belong to any group at all.

    What motivates them is their interpretation of the Koran. Their interpretation depends on the understanding of and the belief in the principle of abrogation. This means that the lessons told last in the Koran are the ones to follow. And the last lessons are the hateful and violent commands and examples from Muhammad, not the peaceful examples and messages mentioned earlier in the Koran.

    So, all Islamists believe that Islam should spread over the entire globe and dominate all other religions and that Muslims should do whatever they can to help it spread. This is Jihad. And peaceful Jihad represents the spiritual struggle necessary to force oneself to become more effective in helping spread Islam. Whether that means posting in a chatroom or flying planes into skyscrapers.

    Edit: To see where I got the 20% figure, read from this ste which gives various polling results.

    http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...many-islamists
    Last edited by marsden; 10-19-12 at 03:55 PM.

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