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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    I would be skeptical, but it depends on who the opponent is and how much I like them.
    why skeptical and is that skepticism based solely on the religion?

    also the opponent isnt in the equation

    its qualified person who happens to be Muslim.
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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    why skeptical and is that skepticism based solely on the religion?
    Yep, it is based on their religion. Politicians lie, I would be worried if he believed in restricting freedom of speech, or sympathized with countries like Iran.

    I would certainly be skeptical, so he got to convince me he is telling me his true intentions.

    also the opponent isnt in the equation

    its qualified person who happens to be Muslim.
    The opponent is absolutely in the equation. For instance, do I think the opponent is qualified. For instance if I had the choice between a Muslim Jon Huntsman against Nancy Pelosi, then the choice would be easy. But if the muslim candidate is worse and the democrat candidate is better, then it would be a more difficult choice.

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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    1.)Yep, it is based on their religion. Politicians lie, I would be worried if he believed in restricting freedom of speech, or sympathized with countries like Iran.


    2.)The opponent is absolutely in the equation. For instance, do I think the opponent is qualified. For instance if I had the choice between a Muslim Jon Huntsman against Nancy Pelosi, then the choice would be easy. But if the muslim candidate is worse and the democrat candidate is better, then it would be a more difficult choice.
    1.) is this a concern for you for ALL religions

    2.) no because its my op and my question and not part of it
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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    1.) is this a concern for you for ALL religions
    No, it is only Islam. It is based on what is happening in Muslim countries where people lack basic rights such as freedom of speech and women are second class citizens. Yes, there are countries who are not Muslim where they lack basic rights, but it is not based on religion.

    Another factor is Israel. I think it is important that US support Israel, and I have met very few Muslims who do not dislike Israel.

    2.) no because its my op and my question and not part of it
    You can choose to not include it in the poll, but it is still important for me.

    I just choose to not respond to the poll.
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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    1.)No, it is only Islam. It is based on what is happening in Muslim countries where people lack basic rights. Yes, there are countries who are not Muslim where they lack basic rights, but it is not based on religion.


    You can choose to not include it in the pool, but it is still important for me.
    1.) you do understand thats totally bigoted right?
    2.) no its a deflection to avoid the real topic. since its a scenerio question based on what I outlined things you make up in your head dont matter
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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    1.) you do understand thats totally bigoted right?
    2.) no its a deflection to avoid the real topic. since its a scenerio question based on what I outlined things you make up in your head dont matter
    All people are somewhat bigoted. Would liberals vote for Paul Ryan if he suddenly became a liberal? Would liberals support a very christian candidate? Probably not. Would blacks in South Africa vote for a white president, no they wouldn't.

    Politicians lie. I need to know that the Muslim nominee really support Israel, that he really believes in freedom of speech and that he does not sympathize with countries like Iran. I have reasons to be skeptical.

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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by mhurford View Post
    To clarify my vote:

    I said no because at this time, with all the conflict in the middle east, it could impair his judgement of making the better choices for this nation. food for thought, not saying i'm right or wrong.
    Seeing an issue from both sides of the fence, though, is the most basic method of solving problems, the most basic foundation of the concept of justice - from adults intervening in children squabbling to legal professionals intervening in crime cases to wars
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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    1.)All people are somewhat bigoted. 2.)Would liberals vote for Paul Ryan if he suddenly became a liberal? 3.)Would liberals support a very christian candidate? Probably not. 4.)Would blacks in South Africa vote for a white president, no they wouldn't.

    Politicians lie. I need to know that the Muslim nominee really support Israel, that he really believes in freedom of speech and that he does not sympathize with countries like Iran. I have reasons to be skeptical.
    1.) uhm the example you provided isnt somewhat it is flat out bigoted
    2.) dont know if they didnt vote for him solely based on religion though they would be bigots
    3.) yes they would if he was QUALIFIED but if they didnt based solely on religion then they too would be bigots
    4.) blacks in south africa have no concern to me or meaning to this discussion or change the fact that your thought process is extremely ignorant and bigoted

    there are many whites blacks asians Latinos women, men, christians, muslims, catholics, jews etc that do plenty of messed up stuff in this country ad others that would never make me judge all of them because thats stupid.

    IIMO its also very telling that you picked picked "liberals" and "blacks" for you examples, shows your biased also



    ALL americans if they are smart should be worried about any extreme religious candidate, the religion doesnt matter its more because if he is to religious then he wouldnt be a qualified candidate. . DO you disagree with that?
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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    .)No, it is only Islam. It is based on what is happening in Muslim countries where people lack basic rights. Yes, there are countries who are not Muslim where they lack basic rights, but it is not based on religion.
    That is a political institution problem. No abrahamic religion has ever been the slightest interested in the concept of human rights. Human rights is a political product of the enlightenment which managed to tame the particular abrahamic religion in the west.

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    Re: If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

    Yes... but:

    Only if I am convinced he is a solid secularist.

    If I have any doubts about it, I wouldn't vote for him.

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