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If you felt the person was qulified would you vote for Muslim president?

If you felt the person was qualified would you vote for a Muslim president?


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1.) you do understand thats totally bigoted right?
2.) no its a deflection to avoid the real topic. since its a scenerio question based on what I outlined things you make up in your head dont matter
All people are somewhat bigoted. Would liberals vote for Paul Ryan if he suddenly became a liberal? Would liberals support a very christian candidate? Probably not. Would blacks in South Africa vote for a white president, no they wouldn't.

Politicians lie. I need to know that the Muslim nominee really support Israel, that he really believes in freedom of speech and that he does not sympathize with countries like Iran. I have reasons to be skeptical.
 
To clarify my vote:

I said no because at this time, with all the conflict in the middle east, it could impair his judgement of making the better choices for this nation. food for thought, not saying i'm right or wrong.

Seeing an issue from both sides of the fence, though, is the most basic method of solving problems, the most basic foundation of the concept of justice - from adults intervening in children squabbling to legal professionals intervening in crime cases to wars
 
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1.)All people are somewhat bigoted. 2.)Would liberals vote for Paul Ryan if he suddenly became a liberal? 3.)Would liberals support a very christian candidate? Probably not. 4.)Would blacks in South Africa vote for a white president, no they wouldn't.

Politicians lie. I need to know that the Muslim nominee really support Israel, that he really believes in freedom of speech and that he does not sympathize with countries like Iran. I have reasons to be skeptical.

1.) uhm the example you provided isnt somewhat it is flat out bigoted
2.) dont know if they didnt vote for him solely based on religion though they would be bigots
3.) yes they would if he was QUALIFIED but if they didnt based solely on religion then they too would be bigots
4.) blacks in south africa have no concern to me or meaning to this discussion or change the fact that your thought process is extremely ignorant and bigoted

there are many whites blacks asians Latinos women, men, christians, muslims, catholics, jews etc that do plenty of messed up stuff in this country ad others that would never make me judge all of them because thats stupid.

IIMO its also very telling that you picked picked "liberals" and "blacks" for you examples, shows your biased also

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ALL americans if they are smart should be worried about any extreme religious candidate, the religion doesnt matter its more because if he is to religious then he wouldnt be a qualified candidate. . DO you disagree with that?
 
.)No, it is only Islam. It is based on what is happening in Muslim countries where people lack basic rights. Yes, there are countries who are not Muslim where they lack basic rights, but it is not based on religion.

That is a political institution problem. No abrahamic religion has ever been the slightest interested in the concept of human rights. Human rights is a political product of the enlightenment which managed to tame the particular abrahamic religion in the west.
 
Yes... but:

Only if I am convinced he is a solid secularist.

If I have any doubts about it, I wouldn't vote for him.
 
Yes... but:

Only if I am convinced he is a solid secularist.


If I have any doubts about it, I wouldn't vote for him.

that needs to be true of all candidates others wise they arent qualified
 
1.) uhm the example you provided isnt somewhat it is flat out bigoted
2.) dont know if they didnt vote for him solely based on religion though they would be bigots
3.) yes they would if he was QUALIFIED but if they didnt based solely on religion then they too would be bigots
4.) blacks in south africa have no concern to me or meaning to this discussion or change the fact that your thought process is extremely ignorant and bigoted
Oh.. right. I am extremely bigoted now, because I want to find a candidates true intention?!

And I never said I wouldn't vote for a Muslim either. Why exactly do you set liberals to a different standard?

there are many whites blacks asians Latinos women, men, christians, muslims, catholics, jews etc that do plenty of messed up stuff in this country ad others that would never make me judge all of them because thats stupid.
No one is judging all of them, but what group you are part of influences how people treat you.

IIMO its also very telling that you picked picked "liberals" and "blacks" for you examples, shows your biased also
Maybe I picked them because you are a liberal. It is a normal tactic, you pick liberal examples to liberals and conservative examples to conservatives.

ALL americans if they are smart should be worried about any extreme religious candidate, the religion doesnt matter its more because if he is to religious then he wouldnt be a qualified candidate. . DO you disagree with that?
Actually I think most Americans should worry about people like you. If I had to pick between you and a radical Muslim, I would pick the radical Muslim in a heart beat. We see plenty of people like you in for instance Sweden. If anyone dare to be against immigration, then people like Objective-J comes out and scream racists to silence the debate.

You obviously created this thread so you could call everyone who doesn't agree with you a racist.
 
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that needs to be true of all candidates others wise they arent qualified

Yes, but more so in the case of Islam because unlike Christianty, islam has a political component integrated into the religion -> sharia law. Christianity hasn't. The political aspect of Christianity comes from people who wanted power... not from the religion itself.

That being said, yes, all presidents of the USA and every western country should be secular. They can be religious, have any religion, but be secularists.
 
1.)Oh.. right. I am extremely bigoted now, because I want to find a candidates true intention. And I never said I wouldn't vote for a Muslim, but they are supposedly not bigots while I am an extreme bigot. People like you disgust me.


No one is judging all of them, but what group you are part of influences how people treat you.


Maybe I picked them because you are a liberal. It is a normal tactic, you pick liberal examples to liberals and conservative examples to conservatives.


Actually I think most Americans should worry about people like you. If I had to pick between you and a radical Muslim, I would pick the radical Muslim in a heart beat. We see plenty of people like you in for instance Sweden. If anyone dare to be against immigration, then people like Objective-J comes out and scream racists to silence the debate.

You obviously created this thread so you could call everyone who doesn't agree with you a racist.

1.) be disgusted all you want doesnt change anything you said something bigoted :shrug: and now you are trying to add sprinkles and icing to it

2.) no who a PERSON is influences how non-bigoted people treat you, group dont matter

3.) fail, im not a liberal LMAO

4.) deflection and failed insult because you are upset about being exposed so your only course of action now is being uncivil. Doesnt change anything

People have already disagreed with me and they were not called racist, another fail

lol
 
Yes, but more so in the case of Islam because unlike Christianty, islam has a political component integrated into the religion -> sharia law. Christianity hasn't. The political aspect of Christianity comes from people who wanted power... not from the religion itself.

That being said, yes, all presidents of the USA and every western country should be secular. They can be religious, have any religion, but be secularists.


anyway at least you understand that all presidents need to have an amount of secularist in them them otherwise they make a bad leader
 
1.) be disgusted all you want doesnt change anything you said something bigoted :shrug: and now you are trying to add sprinkles and icing to it
No, it is just you who are using disgusting race card. Objective, do you know me?

2.) no who a PERSON is influences how non-bigoted people treat you, group dont matter
Maybe in some multicultural socialist utopia it doesn't matter, but in reality it matters.

3.) fail, im not a liberal LMAO
:lamo
Nice try.

4.) deflection and failed insult because you are upset about being exposed so your only course of action now is being uncivil. Doesnt change anything
You were the one here who started this racism BS. And you failed to respond to my arguments in my previous post. Why do you set different standards to liberals like you and others? Why can liberals be influenced if someone is part of a very conservative church, but conservatives can not be influenced if someone is Muslim.

How about you acting a little bit more mature and stop this racism BS. The utterly pathetic disgusting race card is not working anymore. I never get called racist in real life, but I do occacinally get called racist by internet warriors like you. Why do you think that is? Bringing up the race card only remind voters why they should worry about voting for the democratic party, because some of them are like you.
 
I know there is a similar poll here but I didnt like the silly twist about adding "if he came out the day before the election" in there

my question is, if you felt the person was qualified by your standards to be president and he was a Muslim would you vote for him, and if not why?

my answer is OF COURSE YES, because if I thought he was qualified his religion doesn't matter.
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1.)No, it is just you who are using disgusting race card. Objective, do you know me?


2.)Maybe in some multicultural socialist utopia it doesn't matter, but in reality it matters.


3.):lamo
Nice try.


4.)You were the one here who started this racism BS.
5.)And you failed to respond to my arguments in my previous post. Why do you set different standards to liberals like you and others? Why can liberals be influenced if someone is part of a very conservative church, but conservatives can not be influenced if someone is Muslim.

5.)ow about you acting a little bit more mature and stop this racism BS. The utterly pathetic disgusting race card is not working anymore. I never get called racist in real life, but I do occacinally get called racist by internet warriors like you. Why do you think that is? Bringing up the race card only remind voters why they should worry about voting for the democratic party, because some of them are like you.

1.) wrong again, i dont need to know you to know you made a bigoted statement which the FACT is you did :shrug:
2.) wrong again, reality is that non-bigoted people judge a person
3.) not a try at all, im not, ive been called both on this board liberal and conservative and it often happens in a case like now when someone is loosing a debate or cant defend themselves, its very telling :laughat: and exposes you further
4.) I didnt start anything just pointed out a fact you said something bigoted

and now you just lied I set no difference standard for anybody LMAO wow you are just on a roll

5.) what racist crap????? nobody played the race care LMAO Muslim isnt a race you are very uneducated on this subject i see, stop now your hole is just getting deeper and you are looking more silly with ever post WOW LMAO
 
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Every Wednesday on FOB Sharana they had a potato bar...ooooh my god that so delicious.....all-you-can-eat potato bar...mashed, fried, sweet, chopped with onions and bacon....

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not an onion fan though i hate when "taters" have those little scallions in them

onions smell like BO lol
 
1.) wrong again, i dont need to know you to know you made a bigoted statement which the FACT is you did :shrug:
Here is something that you need to learn. Just because you think a statement is extremely bigoted does not mean it really is. And just because someone is against abortion does not mean they hate women.

3.) not a try at all, im not, ive been called both on this board liberal and conservative and it often happens in a case like now when someone is loosing a debate or cant defend themselves, its very telling :laughat: and exposes you further
Oh.. really? Quote yourself.

4.) I didnt start anything just pointed out a fact you said something bigoted

and now you just lied I set no difference standard for anybody LMAO wow you are just on a roll
You started with this thread with intention of calling people racists if they answered wrong.

5.) what racist crap????? nobody played the race care LMAO Muslim isnt a race you are very uneducated on this subject i see, stop now your hole is just getting deeper and you are looking more silly with ever post WOW LMAO
You do realize that the definition of racists has changed since 1900? It has been expanded. For instance we call nazis racist for hating Jews.

But I see that for the third time you failed to answer my argument that you are showing obvious double standards. Can you give me an estimate of how many times I need to mention it before you will answer? I think that is very telling that you refuse to answer.

I also notice that you seem to have some kind of fetish of declaring yourself the winner. Real winners do not need to declare themselves as winners, only losers need to do that.
 
1.)Here is something that you need to learn. Just because you think a statement is extremely bigoted does not mean it really is. And just because someone is against abortion does not mean they hate women.


2.)Oh.. really? Quote yourself.


3.)You started with this thread with intention of calling people racists if they answered wrong.


4.)You do realize that the definition of racists has changed since 1900? It has been expanded. For instance we call nazis racist for hating Jews.

5.)But I see that for the third time you failed to answer my argument that you are showing obvious double standards. Can you give me an estimate of how many times I need to mention it before you will answer? I think that is very telling that you refuse to answer.

I also notice that you seem to have some kind of fetish of declaring yourself the winner. Real winners do not need to declare themselves as winners, only losers need to do that.

1.) thanks for the info, guess what your statements was bigoted and thats a fact :shrug:
2.) I have no idea what you are talking about, fact remains you were wrong and I have been called both
3.) you keep saying this lie but the fact remains you are wrong and i didnt call anybody racist. LMAO
4.) fact remains you said something bigoted, i never brought up race or played the race cared or called you racist. You are deflecting again trying to save face but you are failing again and making it worse and more funny.
5.)what argument? i have showed no double standard, this is another lie. If you falsely believe i showed a double standard PROVE it LMAO
6.) oh look another failed insult, again plese whip the egg of your face before it starts to burn you.

fact remains you made a bigoted statement and are now telling lies :shrug:

let me know when you can prove otherwise :laughat:
 
1.) thanks for the info, guess what your statements was bigoted and thats a fact :shrug:
In what world do you define the facts? I repeat just because you think a statement is extremely bigoted does not mean it really is. And just because someone is against abortion does not mean they hate women.

2.) I have no idea what you are talking about, fact remains you were wrong and I have been called both
Oh.. right so now you pretend you got the memory of the goldfish. You claimed you were not a liberal and have been called conservative plenty of times on this forum. Prove it, cause I can only find people calling you a liberal.

4.) fact remains you said something bigoted, i never brought up race or played the race cared or called you racist. You are deflecting again trying to save face but you are failing again and making it worse and more funny.
You just said I was extremely bigoted against Muslims, and hating Muslims is considered racist. Use your brain. Logically you are calling me a racist too.

And the bigot card is no better than the racists card.
5.)what argument? i have showed no double standard, this is another lie. If you falsely believe i showed a double standard PROVE it LMAO
You do realize that your arguments would be much more effective if you backed them up instead of claiming I lie all the time. As pointed out 4 times before now you said it is okay if a liberal does not support a very christian candidate as long as it is not solely based on religion. But when I am skeptical of a Muslim candidate and need to get to know what he really think first then I am an extreme bigot.

6.) oh look another failed insult, again plese whip the egg of your face before it starts to burn you.
Have you ever looked at yourself in the mirror? Your whole post is a complete rant about how much I lie, how racist/bigoted I am and how awesome you think yourself are. Again as pointed out.

Real winners do not need to declare themselves as winners, only losers need to do that. It is not a direct insult towards you, unless you have a fetish of declaring yourself as a winner.
 
1.)In what world do you define the facts? I repeat just because you think a statement is extremely bigoted does not mean it really is. And just because someone is against abortion does not mean they hate women.


2.)Oh.. right so now you pretend you got the memory of the goldfish. You claimed you were not a liberal and have been called conservative plenty of times on this forum. Prove it, cause I can only find people calling you a liberal.


3.)You just said I was extremely bigoted against Muslims, and hating Muslims is considered racist. Use your brain. And no matter if we call the bigot card or the racists card it does not get any better.


4.)You do realize that your arguments would be much more effective if you backed them up instead of claiming I lie all the time.
5.)As pointed out 4 times before now you said it is okay if a liberal does not support a very christian candidate as long as it is not solely based on religion.
6.) But when I am skeptical of a Muslim candidate and need to get to know what he really think first then I am an extreme bigot.


7.)Have you ever looked at yourself in the mirror? Again as pointed out.

Real winners do not need to declare themselves as winners, only losers need to do that. It is not a direct insult towards you, unless you have a fetish of declaring yourself as a winner.

good lord lol

1.) keep repeating this, doesnt change the fact you made a bigoted statement. :shrug: LMAO
2.) wow another lie, i said I been called both, i have no clue how many times, but the fact remains I have been called both. have fun trying to change that and im not going through my posts looking i have no clue even where to look, why would I? lol
3.) this is another LIE, I said your made a bigoted statement and your thought process on this matter was extremely bigoted. I am using my brain, PLEASE take your own advice lol, Im also being honest something you prove incapable of doing post after post. Why are you so dishonest? never said you hate muslims or mention raced or called you directly bigoted these are all nonsensical biased kneejerk lies you made up in your head LOL
4.) i am not stating any arguments so im fine, nor is your approval my gaol. I simply pointed out a fact
5.) ANOTHER lie, jeez do you ever stop, i NEVER said that EVER?A?A :laughat" you are making a complete fool of yourslef and every honest and objective poster readin this see it.

this is what you asked

A.)Would liberals vote for Paul Ryan if he suddenly became a liberal?
B.)Would liberals support a very christian candidate? Probably not.

this is what I answered

A.) dont know but if they didnt vote for him solely based on religion though they would be bigots
B.) yes they would if he was QUALIFIED but if they didnt based solely on religion then they too would be bigots

so wanna try again with your LIES lmao

6.) another lie, again i never called you a extreme bigot ever. 2 I said you made a bigoted comment and it wasnt that you were skeptical

7.) yep and i didnt do what you did

8.) thanks for your meaningless opinion :shrug:

Ive never seen anybody make themselves look so silly by lying and denying facts so much

lets review

FACTS: you made a bigoted statement
 
good lord lol
1.) keep repeating this, doesnt change the fact you made a bigoted statement. :shrug: LMAO
Keep saying it, it doesn't make it more true.

2.) wow another lie, i said I been called both, i have no clue how many times, but the fact remains I have been called both. have fun trying to change that and im not going through my posts looking i have no clue even where to look, why would I? lol
I think if you had been called conservative plenty of times it would be easy to find. But I can make it easier for you. Post a post where you are criticizing liberals, but not conservatives. I have a feeling you might even struggle finding that, because nearly all of your topics is about how bad conservatives are. Take a look at the last 100 posts and see how many are conservative posts and how many are liberal posts.

You are not a independent. You are a liberal democrat.

3.) this is another LIE, I said your made a bigoted statement and your thought process on this matter was extremely bigoted. I am using my brain, PLEASE take your own advice lol, Im also being honest something you prove incapable of doing post after post. Why are you so dishonest? never said you hate muslims or mention raced or called you directly bigoted these are all nonsensical biased kneejerk lies you made up in your head LOL
Oh.. right. So I am extremely bigoted, but I don't hate Muslims. And sorry there is no difference between saying my thought process is extremely bigoted and I am extremely bigoted.

4.) i am not stating any arguments so im fine, nor is your approval my gaol. I simply pointed out a fact
And in what universe do you define the facts?

5.) ANOTHER lie, jeez do you ever stop, i NEVER said that EVER?A?A :laughat" you are making a complete fool of yourslef and every honest and objective poster readin this see it.

this is what you asked

A.)Would liberals vote for Paul Ryan if he suddenly became a liberal?
B.)Would liberals support a very christian candidate? Probably not.

this is what I answered

A.) dont know but if they didnt vote for him solely based on religion though they would be bigots
B.) yes they would if he was QUALIFIED but if they didnt based solely on religion then they too would be bigots
You just said it there. So when are you going to explain why you set different standards for liberals and me. Because I definitely wouldn't reject a Muslim candidate based solely on religion, but according to you I am an extreme bigot. Sorry, my though process is extremely bigoted, which is exactly the same.

And btw. screaming lies is not going to work.

6.) another lie, again i never called you a extreme bigot ever. 2 I said you made a bigoted comment and it wasnt that you were skeptical
Um... yes it was. I said i was skeptical. You asked if I would be skeptical of other religions, and I said no as generally other religions are more moderate. But if they were radicals of course it would impact my decision.

7.) yep and i didnt do what you did
You whole post is a rant against me, but you are still claiming you never insult me. So when you say I am a extreme bigot, uneducated, liar, etc. What exactly are you doing?

8.) thanks for your meaningless opinion :shrug:
it is still true. Real winners do not need to declare themselves as winners, only losers need to do that.

I have noticed a sharp decline in "I am winning" statements after I said it, so I will just keep reminding you.

FACTS: you made a bigoted statement
Again, you do not define what is facts.
 
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1.)Keep saying it, it doesn't make it more true.


2.)I think if you had been called conservative plenty of times it would be easy to find. But I can make it easier for you. Post a post where you are criticizing liberals, but not conservatives.


3.)Oh.. right. So I am extremely bigoted, but I don't hate Muslims. And sorry there is no difference between saying my thought process is extremely bigoted and I am extremely bigoted.


4.)And in what universe do you define the facts?


5.)You just said it there. So when are you going to explain why you set different standards for liberals and me. Because I definitely wouldn't reject a Muslim candidate based solely on religion, but according to you I am an extreme bigot. Sorry, my though process is extremely bigoted, which is exactly the same.

6.)And btw. screaming lies is not going to work.


7.)Um... yes it was. I said i was skeptical. You asked if I would be skeptical of other religions, and I said no as generally other religions are more moderate. But if they were radicals of course it would impact my decision.


8.)You whole post is a rant against me, but you are still claiming you never insult me. So when you say I am a extreme bigot, uneducated, liar, etc. What exactly are you doing?


9.)it is still true. Real winners do not need to declare themselves as winners, only losers need to do that.

I have noticed a sharp decline in "I am winning" statements after I said it, so I will just keep reminding you.


10.)Again, you do not define what is facts.

1.)LMAO I agree 100% it doesnt make it MORE true, its just true, its just a fact :shrug: WOW :laughat:
2.) again there you go lying again who said " a lot"
3.) this is another lie an intellectual and factually dishonest, geez you are desperate lol
never called YOU extremely bigoted, never said you hate muslims
4.) "I" dont, facts define themselves I have no impact on facts
5.) is english your first language because I absolutely positively did not say what you lied and falsely accused me of:lamo its right there and its not even CLOSE to what you said LMAO how do you possible make up that much BS in your head?
6.) work? work on what? lol
7.) I didnt say you didnt say that I said thats not what I called bigoted WOW
8.) telling the truth
9.) nope only your opinion, seems you have serious issues telling the difference between facts/truth vs opinion/lies
10.) again I agree 100% good thing i didnt :laughat:

another long post by you

the fact still stands you made a bigoted comment

but now you look even more silly and have told even more lies than before.

let me know when anything changes, i cant wait for the next post where you prove absolutely nothing look even more silly and the facts dont change again:lol:
 
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1.)LMAO I agree 100% it doesnt make it MORE true, its just true, its just a fact :shrug: WOW :laughat:
Haha, nice try. Again, as stated a million times before, you do not define what is facts.

2.) again there you go lying again who said " a lot"
You wrote "it often happens", so who is lying now?

Also, it is quite telling when you are unable to give a single example of you posting a conservative post. That should have been easy if you are an independent.

5.) is english your first language because I absolutely positively did not say what you lied and falsely accused me of:lamo its right there and its not even CLOSE to what you said LMAO

Actually, no it isn't and my English is still better than your broken English. It is really funny when people who are absolutely terrible in English try to use the English argument. I mean seriously, what kind of English is this I set no difference standard for anybody.

However, what you said was pretty clear. You said they are bigots if they reject a candidate based solely on their religion. You said "solely based on religion though they would be bigots" not "they would be bigots if religion is a factor at all".

7.) I didnt say you didnt say that I said thats not what I called bigoted WOW
???
And you accused me of bad English. :lol:

8.) telling the truth
Of course, when you insult people it is not insulting at all. You are just educating them. :lamo

9.) nope only your opinion, seems you have serious issues telling the difference between facts/truth vs opinion/lies
If it was only my opinion, then why have you stopped declaring yourself the winner? You stopped because you know it is true. Real winners do not need to declare themselves as winners, only losers need to do that.

the fact still stands you made a bigoted comment

but now you look even more silly and have told even more lies than before.
Again, you do not define the facts, and you never will. Repeating it will not make it more true. You can claim I look silly, but you were the one who failed to find a single person who called you a conservative, and then you failed to find a conservative post coming from you. Then despite your absolutely terrible English, you tried to discredit me by asking if English was my first language which it isn't.

It is time for you to take a look in the mirror.
 
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I will be voting for Mr. Romney. I'm a Mormon, just as he is, but that has little to do with my vote. I perceive him as being very far short of my ideal candidate, but at this point, it is him or Obama, and I see him as very likely to be a major improvement over Obama. I guess I'm really not voting so much for Mitt Romney as against Barak Obama.

If the choice was between Romney, or a Muslim whose policies I thought would be better for the nation than Romney's, I would vote for the Muslim.
 
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