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    Re: Legalisation of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Actually, yes, I was imitating you by making a dumb comment coupled with inappropriate laughter.
    Oh, well, stay classy.

    If you want to make snarky comments in response to a general political statement, that's on you and your own credibility. You're the one who took it to a personal level, TPD.

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    Re: Legalisation of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    If anything, legalizing it will only lead to the tightening of restrictions and more regulation over people driving while high. And the development of better field tests to determine when someone is currently high as opposed to just having residual levels in their system from recreational use. IOW, we'd start to learn about, and educate people about, when they are too high to drive, and when they have come down enough to be safe. Just like we did with booze.
    If legalization would lead to more regulation and education, then I would support it, but I'm not just going to take anybody's word for it. I want that to become a part of the pro-legalization campaign. If that happened, then I would support it and I suspect a lot of other weary people would too.

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    Re: Legalisation of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Oh, well, stay classy.

    If you want to make snarky comments in response to a general political statement, that's on you and your own credibility.
    You have no ground to determine class or credibility since your initial post was classless and made no actual arguments. It was just snark.

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    Re: Legalisation of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, you made a claim and I asked you to substantiate it. Instead of doing so, you repeated your unsubstantiated argument and then asked me a question. And no, I did not make a claim "out of left field that stricter DUI laws will decrease DUI's." In fact, I never made that claim out right. Instead, that claim was implicit in the first post I made in the thread - the one which you first responded to. Why you insist on mischaracterizing everything? There's no up side from what I can tell.
    I can see this is going nowhere. Let's just call it a night. I wouldn't want to have to source things I make up either.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Legalisation of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I can see this is going nowhere. Let's just call it a night. I wouldn't want to have to source things I make up either.
    Like I said before, I was prepared to have a substantial discussion and even gave you multiple chances after you put words in my mouth to do so - more than a lot of other peope would. Don't pin your failures on me. Learn to take responsibility for your behavior. /shrug

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    Re: Legalisation of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    You have no ground to determine class or credibility since your initial post was classless and made no actual arguments. It was just snark.
    Incorrect. My statement implied my willingness to allow marijuana to be legalized, but if it wrecks society further, as in affecting more people adversely, I'd find that both sad yet hilarious. That had nothing to do with you. You took issue with it, decided to make it personal, and made a snarky drive-by comment. Perhaps instead you could have avoided making it personal, TPD?

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    Re: Legalisation of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Incorrect. My statement implied my willingness to allow marijuana to be legalized, but if it wrecks society further, as in affecting more people adversely, I'd find that both sad yet hilarious. That had nothing to do with you. You took issue with it, decided to make it personal, and made a snarky drive-by comment. Perhaps instead you could have avoided making it personal, TPD?
    No, your comment was snarky and classless and now, instead of taking responsibility for it, you're pretending as if it was not. Just be honest about it. And yes, I did make it personal because, as I seemingly figured correctly, the apparent hilarity of drugs "wrecking" people might not seem so funny when it becomes personal. So would you be laughing if you were killed by someone who was driving high in this "wrecked" society? Is it funny then?

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    Re: Legalisation of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    If legalization would lead to more regulation and education, then I would support it, but I'm not just going to take anybody's word for it. I want that to become a part of the pro-legalization campaign. If that happened, then I would support it and I suspect a lot of other weary people would too.
    Well good. You're not really against it then.

    Personally, I'm not too bothered by the fact that it's not currently a huge part of the debate on the issue, because I see it as an inevitable result. I know that in CA, there has already been a huge push by law enforcement for the development of better field tests. This is not because of increased numbers of high driving accidents or high driving in general, but simply because they want to be able to cite people who use it (to hit their citation quotas and so the state can make that money from fines and fees), and simply having it in their system is no longer a citable, criminal offense. So already, naturally, there is a big push to develop new testing methods, and guidelines for limitation of when people can safely and legally drive and when they can't.

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    Re: Legalisation of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, your comment was snarky and classless and now, instead of taking responsibility for it, you're pretending as if it was not. Just be honest about it. And yes, I did make it personal because, as I seemingly figured correctly, the apparent hilarity of drugs "wrecking" people might not seem so funny when it becomes personal. So would you be laughing if you were killed by someone who was driving high in this "wrecked" society? Is it funny then?
    No, my comment was not snarky and classless, but yours was, because it was snarky, personal, and classless. Instead of taking responsibility for personally insulting someone else with a snarky comment, you're trying to avoid it. You are the one who decided to get personal but instead of acknowledgeing that fact you're pretending you can make snarky comments and get away with it. When I meant if society would be wrecked by marijuana being legalized, and how I found it both funny and sad how people keep pining for it, I factored in every single possible side-effect, from people losing IQ points and failing classes, to all manner of foolish behavior resulting from being stoned. It's a bit sad, and it's a bit funny, because people want to get their hands on a drug that damages brain cells, lowers IQ, and obscures their senses. So no, instead of trying to get personal and uncredible, how about you discuss the issue with me like an adult instead of resorting to classless, personal insults?

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    Re: Legalisation of Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    Well good. You're not really against it then.

    Personally, I'm not too bothered by the fact that it's not currently a huge part of the debate on the issue, because I see it as an inevitable result. I know that in CA, there has already been a huge push by law enforcement for the development of better field tests. This is not because of increased numbers of high driving accidents or high driving in general, but simply because they want to be able to cite people who use it (to hit their citation quotas and so the state can make that money from fines and fees), and simply having it in their system is no longer a citable, criminal offense. So already, naturally, there is a big push to develop new testing methods, and guidelines for limitation of when people can safely and legally drive and when they can't.
    That makes sense. CA is obviously a good case study for nationwide legalization since it's already got the ball rolling and if they're regulating and getting stricter organically, that's good news (even though I consider citation quotas to be an incredibly bad way of managing the police - but that's another thread). I would still like to see regulation become a part of the pro-legalization movement, but hearing about the regulation and stricter attention to drivers in CA gives me something to research more and use to potentially reconsider my position.

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