View Poll Results: Long term demographics

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  • Democratic party becomes much stronger, current platforms remain largely unchanged

    8 27.59%
  • Republican party adopts platform changes to appeal to new demographics, balance is maintained

    8 27.59%
  • republican party changes platform to appeal to new groups, republicans become more dominant

    4 13.79%
  • republican party loses popularity and another party (libertarians?) begins to take hold

    3 10.34%
  • republican party loses popularity and splits conservative votes with another party

    1 3.45%
  • democrats become too diverse (big tent) and split into smaller parties

    2 6.90%
  • other

    8 27.59%
  • goshinabega

    2 6.90%
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    Re: Long term demographics

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    We are not just talking about Lincoln. The industrial revolution didn't really get in high gear before the late 1800s. And by that time Republicans had become the big business party.

    Republicans represented the big cities and its business. To give an example on who republican represented, we can take a look at the wikipedia article from the election in 1896. "McKinley forged a coalition in which businessmen, professionals, skilled factory workers, and prosperous farmers were heavily represented." United States presidential election, 1896 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Democrats however represented farmers, especially in the south and the midwest
    Apparently you and I are saying the same thing in different ways. If i remember correctly Grant was POTUS in the 1870's this is when the Rep policies changed. I agree with your comment about McKinley in 1896. What I am saying is the roles were reversed prior to and during the CW.
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    for example = 1850's -early 1870's Republicans supported civil rights, enviornmental issues, social justice. Dems were proslavery, anti social justice, champions of the status quo.
    Once Grant came it is started turning around and by 1880 their politcal agendas were reversed.

    I truly see what you are saying and I agree with it. But I am simply pointing out what was going on BEFORE Grant came in and the IR.
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    Re: Long term demographics

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    wolfman24: I think this linked explained it better how republicans have always supported big business.



    Why Did the Democratic and Republican Parties Switch Platforms? | Democrats & Republicans | LifesLittleMysteries.com
    I see nothing in this article that contradicts my original statement. It said between 1860's and 1936 the reps wen from the party of small to big business and the Dems the opposite this is EXACTLY what I am saying. Except that history shows that the change started in the Grant years and was complete by the IR in the 1880's. Why is this so tough to get?

    Look at the 1860 Republican platform, Lincoln a REp was the first president to found a national park, free slaves, institute land reform, income tax to pay for the war, attacked graff and corruption. Essentially created the forerunner of the VA and helped form the Red Cross. Veterans benefits for widows. = SOcial justice, environmental, regulations, etc. These are now Dem issues.

    I don't get the arguement at all.
    "Those who do not learn from history and condemned to relive it".

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