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Thread: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

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    OH MY GOSH! That's AWFUL. We need to stop that kind of thing Right Away!
    Why would you introduce material that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed? Your personal right wing cause celebre quixotic war on unions is irrelevant to the subject of this thread.
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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    while i believe his actions are beyond ethical
    there can be found no taking of liberty
    his employees must exercise their rights ... not forfeit them to some con artist such as this bastard
    every employee gets to vote without anyone knowing how they voted
    if they feel their job security depends upon their employer knowing how they voted then tell him what he wants to hear
    that in no way imposes on them an obligation to actually vote the way he would wish
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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Your party registration is a matter of public record.
    That assumes you don't cross party lines.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    He has the right to say that. Then anyone he fires can sue his ass.

    My father in law was under a similar order in '84 to vote for Reagan. For some unknown reason, he did. Since he lived in Minnesota, it made no difference as it was the only state Mondale won. But I can't figure out how this guy's going to know who his employees voted for. If indeed he can find out, I'd worry about what kind of election fraud he's able to pull off. It would be a worrisome state if he could know.


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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post


    Yet I guess libertarians will thing this is absolutely ok ... which goes to show, they don't care about liberty, they are all for private plutocratic tyrannies.
    At 3:10, this guy talks about Murray Energy, the coal company where rumor had it that the miners were forced to go to a Romney Rally. That is blatantly false.

    The 24-Karat Tool, however, is as tooly as presented. He probably has Alzheimer's Disease.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    He has the right to say that. Then anyone he fires can sue his ass.

    My father in law was under a similar order in '84 to vote for Reagan. For some unknown reason, he did. Since he lived in Minnesota, it made no difference as it was the only state Mondale won. But I can't figure out how this guy's going to know who his employees voted for. If indeed he can find out, I'd worry about what kind of election fraud he's able to pull off. It would be a worrisome state if he could know.

    Sue on what grounds? He's not saying he'll fire them in retaliation. He's saying he'll decide to go out of business and retire to a sunny beach. Different things.

    But let's just be honest here. The guy's a ****ing idiot.
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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    This is not the Gilded Age. It isn't right for business owners or anyone else to coerce the votes of people in this manner. This kind of thing should be illegal. We had another thread on this a few days ago...I think they're crossing the line to tell workers that they'll be forced to cut back on staff if a certain candidate wins office, because there is an implicit threat there. I'm not buying the line of thought that they're simply conveying to the workers what is likely to happen, because there is so much conjecture involved that there's no way they can accurately predict what the business conditions will look like depending on who wins election.

    Back in 2009, at my first job out of college, I remember that the management called us into a meeting. At the time, "card-check" (pro-union) legislation was in the news and there was a big concern at my company that it was going to become law. They told us how card-check legislation would have a negative impact on our company and might ultimately cause them to make budget cuts (although they didn't specify from where). In my opinion, even THAT is a gray area of inappropriateness and walking a pretty thin line with voter intimidation...even though they didn't explicitly threaten our jobs and there wasn't even an upcoming election. I think it DEFINITELY crosses the line when a manager explicitly threatens their job if a specific candidate wins, especially just before an election.
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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    At 3:10, this guy talks about Murray Energy, the coal company where rumor had it that the miners were forced to go to a Romney Rally. That is blatantly false.

    The 24-Karat Tool, however, is as tooly as presented. He probably has Alzheimer's Disease.




    Sue on what grounds? He's not saying he'll fire them in retaliation. He's saying he'll decide to go out of business and retire to a sunny beach. Different things.

    But let's just be honest here. The guy's a ****ing idiot.
    Well, OK. I like how he admits to illegalities in helping Bush by not turning in registrations for Democrat employees. Can you say "fraud?" I know someone will defend him for that. In 3,2,1...


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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post


    Yet I guess libertarians will thing this is absolutely ok ... which goes to show, they don't care about liberty, they are all for private plutocratic tyrannies.
    This is a breach of liberty.Employers have no business extorting their employees to vote a particular way.This should be a criminal offense with a mandatory minimum of 5 years in a real prison and the company seriously fined.
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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well, OK. I like how he admits to illegalities in helping Bush by not turning in registrations for Democrat employees. Can you say "fraud?" I know someone will defend him for that. In 3,2,1...
    Can't defend him for that. He should be prosecuted for admitting he committed fraud, in my opinion. (And his admitting it is just one more reason I think some of his cylinders have stopped firing.)

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is a breach of liberty.Employers have no business extorting their employees to vote a particular way.This should be a criminal offense with a mandatory minimum of 5 years in a real prison and the company seriously fined.
    Nonsense. Freedom of Speech.
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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Can't defend him for that. He should be prosecuted for admitting he committed fraud, in my opinion. (And his admitting it is just one more reason I think some of his cylinders have stopped firing.)
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