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Thread: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    he is conveying to them how their jobs are at risk if the 'wrong' candidate prevails
    how is that not within the bailiwick of his right to free speech

    yes, because i wanted to know how you would propose that person's legitimate comments be 'handled'
    and chances are good that i am stoned when responding, so be assured i have no need to calm down ... if i could only find some chocolate to snack on


    and who in authority would you deem appropriate to restrict this person's legitimate free speech. for extra credit, tell us what standard operating procedures would be used to ensure the next victim of this person of authority was not you, inhibiting how you are able to speak. and for a gold star, explain for us what prevents this employer from firing his employees if the candidate he does not support win the election



    and despite all of your words you have been unable to share with us why the comments of that CEO are found to be other than protected by the free speech provisions of the Constitution
    the only thing upsetting about your posts is your continued inability to offer anything of substance to defend them

    I have mixed feelings about this...Unions endorse candidates...and by that endorsement they are for all intents and purposes telling the membership who would be good for them in their opinion.
    A CEO is a bit different however. the union is not your employer, they do not hire and fire and promote. The CEO does as the boss he has a position of authority and has the ability to make you or break you...Having said that if the ceo puts out a memo saying I want you all to vote for Romney...I dont see how thats much different than what the union does...but if he tells employees if I find out you voted for obama you done here...thats different. I can see both sides...

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I have mixed feelings about this...Unions endorse candidates...and by that endorsement they are for all intents and purposes telling the membership who would be good for them in their opinion.
    A CEO is a bit different however. the union is not your employer, they do not hire and fire and promote. The CEO does as the boss he has a position of authority and has the ability to make you or break you...Having said that if the ceo puts out a memo saying I want you all to vote for Romney...I dont see how thats much different than what the union does...but if he tells employees if I find out you voted for obama you done here...thats different. I can see both sides...
    opposite side of the same coin
    union can exercise "negative" control. it withholds union representation. no longer acts on behalf of your interests
    while illegal under the federal statutes, try proving it
    and unfortunately, as a union officer, it is too prevalent to pretend such union official attitudes do not exist
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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    opposite side of the same coin
    union can exercise "negative" control. it withholds union representation. no longer acts on behalf of your interests
    while illegal under the federal statutes, try proving it
    and unfortunately, as a union officer, it is too prevalent to pretend such union official attitudes do not exist
    Ive never seen that happen bubba...I didnt vote my union endorsements for decades...and I made it known and I never had a problem with the union...I actually got voted in as VP....

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I have mixed feelings about this...Unions endorse candidates...and by that endorsement they are for all intents and purposes telling the membership who would be good for them in their opinion.
    A CEO is a bit different however. the union is not your employer, they do not hire and fire and promote. The CEO does as the boss he has a position of authority and has the ability to make you or break you...Having said that if the ceo puts out a memo saying I want you all to vote for Romney...I dont see how thats much different than what the union does...but if he tells employees if I find out you voted for obama you done here...thats different. I can see both sides...
    Interesting point.

    Small aspect, but a union is also an employer itself in that they have their own staff, and so on. Could their recommendations extend to their own staff as well?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well, OK. I like how he admits to illegalities in helping Bush by not turning in registrations for Democrat employees. Can you say "fraud?" I know someone will defend him for that. In 3,2,1...
    Are employers in the USA required to accept and file voter registration forms for employees?

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Are employers in the USA required to accept and file voter registration forms for employees?

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    Required no. It's a bit underhanded to take the registration forms of employees and throw away those that you don't like, don't you think?


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Required no. It's a bit underhanded to take the registration forms of employees and throw away those that you don't like, don't you think?
    Might not be kosher, but I don't see how it is a legal issue.

    Acutally, if the employee is too damn lazy to take care of it themself, they deserve what they get.

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Required no. It's a bit underhanded to take the registration forms of employees and throw away those that you don't like, don't you think?
    I can't imagine me ever allowing my employer to do that for me.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Might not be kosher, but I don't see how it is a legal issue.

    Acutally, if the employee is too damn lazy to take care of it themself, they deserve what they get.

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    I'd say that probably depends on the State. Without knowing off-hand, I assume that it's possible that one or more states requires that if you take the form you have to turn it in.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: CEOs taking away political freedom of workers.

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Interesting point.

    Small aspect, but a union is also an employer itself in that they have their own staff, and so on. Could their recommendations extend to their own staff as well?

    Their staff is not hired...its elected by the membership

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