View Poll Results: Prisoners should have access to the following modern technologies...

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  • Internet

    6 17.65%
  • Phone

    14 41.18%
  • TV

    16 47.06%
  • Radio

    17 50.00%
  • Special prison TV and radio programms only

    14 41.18%
  • HiFi stereo

    3 8.82%
  • Personal media player

    6 17.65%
  • Dunno

    0 0%
  • Other

    10 29.41%
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Thread: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

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    Re: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And?

    These things matter not to such.

    If an inmate wants to make, or buy a weapon they will do so.
    Out of paper even.

    That is why these are privileges, and can be restricted as a behavior modification.


    Inmates can trade or steal stuff.

    Cassette players used to be used for their motors to make Tattoo guns.
    Digital mp3 players can't. And I can't see most inmates wanting to loose their investment of such just to make (I do not know what kind of) a weapon.
    A 18-20 oz pop/water bottle makes a better shank than a digital media player would.
    Its not an investment if you steal it from another inmate.
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    Re: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Inmates can trade or steal stuff.
    Isn't that intimated in my responses?
    And they get most of their "contraband" through the Guards.




    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Its not an investment if you steal it from another inmate.
    I would have to say that in the eyes of a thief, it most definitely is an investment in time and thought in getting it from the one they took it from.

    But as for in house stealing .
    There is getting sanctioned/held responsible for having property that does not belong to you.
    It is a discouragement for most.

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    Re: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    what if they are serving a life sentence?.. do we still heap benefits on them?
    there are life sentences that really do not mean life and can achieve release at some point and then there are life sentences that slam that door. So it would depend on those variables.

    For somebody like a Charles Manson who will never get out - screw him and don't waste the money. But for my two cents - they should have fried his sorry behind decades ago and saved the continual expense.
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    Re: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What prisoners should have access to is education, job training, therapy, counseling and rehabilitation assistance.

    Screw the other stuff and the weights and all the other nonsense.
    That other stuff has the potential to lower costs.
    When the inmates are occupied with such, it decreases the need for more supervision.
    Their use allows frustrations to be released, which decreases the need for more supervision.
    These items are low cost baby sitters, because they occupy the inmates time and thought.

    If a goal is to decrease cost than these things should be allowed.
    If a goal is to give all inmates areas that can occupy them, which also reduces costs, they should be allowed.

    If not, ok.

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    Re: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swagger Monster View Post
    What kind of prisoners are we talking about? Non-violent? Violent? People who have committed misdemeanors? Felons?

    Also, what is prison's purpose? Is it to rehabilitate? To punish? To act as a barrier between the violent and innocent people?
    These would be people who have not committed violent crimes or people whose crimes were "crimes of passion". I do not believe our prison system has ever been to rehabilitate. If it was it failed miserably. They are crime universities.
    For people who were arrested for drugs I proposed a true rehab facility where they can get help. I also support more "boot camp" type places for juvenile offenders and kids on the edge.
    People who are repeat violent offenders or gang members should either go to prison where they can actually learn something or At my last level I proposed penal facilities which would be more like camps with the guards on the outside. I am being told that some countries are already doing this. If you search for prisons you will find alot of other threads on the subject. The topic seems to be "in" right now.
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    Re: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why not in their last month or two keep that inmate separate from the rest of the inmates and focus on rehabilitation, during which they can taught about modern technology and other similar stuff?
    But is a couple of months long enough for them to get over their hate of the system? Rehab should be right away for those who can make use of it.
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    Re: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    if i'm not mistaken, they are in prison for treating us like dirt to begin with.... usually through some felonious crime.
    So shouldn't we not sink to their level? We're better than they are, right? Here's our chance to prove it.
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    Re: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

    This is an excellent thread, a question constantly overlooked in our modern liberal brainwash.

    If prison is supposed to be a punishment, then the prisoners should have no access to any technology. I would even take away the roof.

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    Re: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

    I couldnt answer

    for me it depends on the prisoner and their behavior while they are in there

    IMO prisons are too soft in many ways its PRISON not a mini vacation

    yes some prisoners should have access to some of those things with the ablity to take away from them or add to them any time, others **** em' they dont get anything, jail house phones occasionally
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    Re: Should prisoners have access to modern technologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    If prison is supposed to be a punishment, ...
    Just in case you didn't know - Prison is supposed to be about Punishment, Deterrence and Rehabilitation.

    Separation, as well as it's length, from Society is the Punishment and Deterrence portion. Although, I seriously doubt any professional believes it is a deterrence.
    The rehab portion supposedly exists at some places, (varies from State to State) but overall, is very limited and cost (and many times sensibility) prohibitive.

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