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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Um, being overly concerned with emotion makes you more of a animal and less of a rational being...
    Animals don't have feelings. They have instinct. So your reasoning here is flawed.

    Plus I've never touted being overly emotional. I'm all for making those that are on welfare work for that welfare via community service.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Um, being overly concerned with emotion makes you more of a animal and less of a rational being...
    Actually it makes you more human than anything.


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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    That's cool - I'm all for making welfare not exist. Any stipulations to limit the number of those on the dole are good in the meantime.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Well to be fair the only women who get free birth control right now are the ones who already have health insurance polocies.
    That's not free, they pay for it, both in premiums and as part of their work compensation package. Maybe the poor ought to get jobs instead of sitting on the couch watching TV.

    The poor uninsured have to wait until the full Obamacare law kicks in, January 2014.
    With any luck, it'll be repealed by then. We can't afford it.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The moment you discard emotions is the moment you are no longer human. You are an animal.
    The moment you are nothing but emotion, you are nothing more than an animal. Humans have intelligence. Try using some.

    If you want to talk about responsibility then what about your responsibility to your fellow man?
    I have no problem giving aid to people who deserve it, to get them back on their feet and self-sufficient. Unfortunately, we have a very large class of Americans who are perpetually unemployed, perpetually disinterested in getting up and working hard to better themselves. All they want to do is sit on the couch and collect a government check month after month. I have no responsibility toward those people, they have certainly shown no responsibility toward society, have they?

    So yes, if you legitimately deserve help, if you've fallen off the social ladder and need help getting back on your feet, I'll help you in any way I can. If you were never on that ladder to begin with, or you leapt off and now wallow in the mud at the bottom because it's easier than trying, then screw you. Honestly, society would be better if these people just ceased to exist.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Animals don't have feelings. They have instinct. So your reasoning here is flawed.
    Ahem...animals do have feelings and instincts. We are not any different there.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The moment you are nothing but emotion, you are nothing more than an animal. Humans have intelligence. Try using some.
    I am using intelligence. Hence why I have advocated making those on welfare work doing community service for that welfare, at least the ones that can. At least I am not advocating that we sterilize millions of poor people or letting them die just because they haven't had the same breaks as you or are able to do as good as you. Something which you obviously have no problem with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I have no problem giving aid to people who deserve it, to get them back on their feet and self-sufficient. Unfortunately, we have a very large class of Americans who are perpetually unemployed, perpetually disinterested in getting up and working hard to better themselves. All they want to do is sit on the couch and collect a government check month after month. I have no responsibility toward those people, they have certainly shown no responsibility toward society, have they?
    Except that you lump all poor people into the same catagory. You'd just as soon as let poor people die than actually help them because to you they are all dead beats that just work the system. You consider them sub-human.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So yes, if you legitimately deserve help, if you've fallen off the social ladder and need help getting back on your feet, I'll help you in any way I can. If you were never on that ladder to begin with, or you leapt off and now wallow in the mud at the bottom because it's easier than trying, then screw you. Honestly, society would be better if these people just ceased to exist.
    It would also be better if all those that are greedy and snobbish ceased to exist also.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ahem...animals do have feelings and instincts. We are not any different there.
    That's because we are animals.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's because we are animals.
    Exactly.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I am using intelligence. Hence why I have advocated making those on welfare work doing community service for that welfare, at least the ones that can. At least I am not advocating that we sterilize millions of poor people or letting them die just because they haven't had the same breaks as you or are able to do as good as you. Something which you obviously have no problem with.
    I'm fine with that, in fact, I think that anyone who gets a welfare check should be required to do 3 things. They should be required to work 20-30 hours a week, even if it's just picking up trash or scrubbing graffiti. In fact, this shouldn't be a gift, they should all earn it or not get it at all. Second, they should be required to get an education, either a GED or a community college degree, or attend a job training program. Third, they should be required to get routine drug screenings and they cannot have any more children while on welfare. Free birth control will be provided while on the program. The program should only last 2-3 years maximum and after getting out, you cannot apply again for 5 years. The reason these people are in poverty in the first place is they have no education, they have no work experience or work ethic and they're on drugs and/or breeding like whores. Take away all of those excuses, make them very aware that they have 2-3 years max to get their crap together or they'll literally be living in the gutter and mean it, and I think you'll get most of them, and keep in mind I'm only talking about the able-bodied, able-minded ones, not the disabled who should be in another program entirely, getting off their asses and working of necessity. The ones who won't, let them die.
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