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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Then why are you complaining? If they don't use it, then we, the taxpayers, aren't out any money, but if they do use it, then we still win because then they aren't having children they can't afford. Sounds win/win to me.
    Oh, people are using them, just not the people who are doing us any good. You're just paying for people who can afford to buy it themselves.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    for all you uninformed men out there. As a father of three girls (now women) it was made clear to me that birth control for adolescent women was a lot more than simple pervention of conception.

    Hormonal balance is a very important reason for prescribing various birth control pharmeceuticals, beyond simply conception negation.

    And speaking as a father, I WANT MY ADULT SINGLE DAUGHTERS TO HAVE BIRTH CONTROL AVAILABLE AT NO COST.

    BTW, fortunately I live in Canada and they get that.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Oh, people are using them, just not the people who are doing us any good. You're just paying for people who can afford to buy it themselves.
    I beg to differ. After my second was born, we were still waitin for hubby to go active duty, so I went on birth control, paid by medicaid. I know many girls who have done this. Paying for anyones birth control will help.

    But unless you have a child, many women cant get on medicaid. Isnt it best to pay for it before that first or second kid, rather than catching them after?
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I beg to differ. After my second was born, we were still waitin for hubby to go active duty, so I went on birth control, paid by medicaid. I know many girls who have done this. Paying for anyones birth control will help.

    But unless you have a child, many women cant get on medicaid. Isnt it best to pay for it before that first or second kid, rather than catching them after?
    Of course, they could just have some self-control and not have sex if they cannot afford or do not want a child. Nobody has to pay for that.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Oh, people are using them, just not the people who are doing us any good. You're just paying for people who can afford to buy it themselves.
    Well to be fair the only women who get free birth control right now are the ones who already have health insurance polocies.

    The poor uninsured have to wait until the full Obamacare law kicks in, January 2014.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Big difference between you helping and compelling your neighbor to help.
    The fact that they complain and use hyperbolic words definately shows that there is indeed a big difference.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Let's use a little common sense. For each object we're debating on, you simply ask the question "do they need this to survive?" That is a question which is even answered strictly with regards to the individual. We're not talking about some spoiled girl saying she couldn't live without her pet chihuahua. I'm saying if you're on welfare then you don't need to be buying any video games, jewelry, CDs or any other non-essential items. Feel free to name any objects you think we'd disagree on as to whether they are needs or wants. Returning to the topic at hand, you don't have to screw to survive. Take some responsibility and stick with masterbation or oral sex if you can't afford the risk of having a child.
    Technically the only thing a person needs to survive is a bit of gruel and a place to keep at least semi warm in the winter. History shows people surviving as serf's with just bark to eat and what barely constitutes as a shanty. How far are you willing to let your fellow man suffer needlessly just because you think they don't deserve some entertainment? What? Are they only allowed to eat, crap, sleep, and work work work?
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    would you rather pay welfare?
    I have no problem helping out my fellow man/woman.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The government is the legislative arm of society, it is put in place by the people and given the ability to enforce social dictates. Anyone who is unable or unwilling to care for their offspring has no business having any. Enough with your absurd emotional whining, this is about responsibility and the utter lack of any by many welfare recipients.

    Spitting out a unit every 9 months is not some imaginary-friend-in-the-sky-given right.
    The moment you discard emotions is the moment you are no longer human. You are an animal.

    If you want to talk about responsibility then what about your responsibility to your fellow man?
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Um, being overly concerned with emotion makes you more of a animal and less of a rational being...

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