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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    The government does NOT do same thing because you have a say (a vote) in who you want to represent you and your taxes.
    A vote doesn't change what the taxes in question mean and do. You're just avoiding the topic.

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    Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And anyone with an ounce of humanity wouldn't mind helping those in need. We'll never advance socially if we just stay greedy.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And just who determine what is waste and what isn't? Granted things like alcohol IS wasteful. Obviously. But there are many things out there that one person would consider it a waste to buy and someone else would consider it necessary.

    Anyways the problem with going strictly by the math is that it does not take into account about the individiual. Person A may need more than Person B due to differing circumstances. And as an outside force you can't take every single possible circumstance into account.
    Let's use a little common sense. For each object we're debating on, you simply ask the question "do they need this to survive?" That is a question which is even answered strictly with regards to the individual. We're not talking about some spoiled girl saying she couldn't live without her pet chihuahua. I'm saying if you're on welfare then you don't need to be buying any video games, jewelry, CDs or any other non-essential items. Feel free to name any objects you think we'd disagree on as to whether they are needs or wants. Returning to the topic at hand, you don't have to screw to survive. Take some responsibility and stick with masterbation or oral sex if you can't afford the risk of having a child.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Let's use a little common sense. For each object we're debating on, you simply ask the question "do they need this to survive?" ....
    Oh, So if someone on welfare already had or was given somthing non essential they should not be allowed to keep it?

    Why can't the poor have some nice things?

    Many of us that have nice things donate our items to the poor when we buy a newer item or don't want the item anymore.

    One of my "working" poor friend's car broke down and she could not afford to fix it. She had breast cancer and needed good reliable transportion so DH and I decided to buy a new car and "sell" her ( for a token fee ) mine.
    Also most of her clothes came from me. I always tried to make look like she was doing me a favor.
    She and I were about the same size so 3 or 4 times a year I would have her over and mention I needed to clean my closets out and then I wouldgive her a bunch of my clothes ( some that still had tags and were never worn)
    and tell her to keep what she wanted and to give rest away to her relatives and her church friends.


    ALso there are people out of work today that had nice jewlery ,Cds , video games etc. before the economy went to pieces.

    Yes, a very small minority of welfare people play the system but most people on welfare are hard working poor folks who just need a hand up.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    would you rather pay welfare?
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    I say no. Being able to get these things at the expense of others not only enables bad behavior, but reinforces the entitlement ideology. Men and women should take responsibility for their decisions, not get a free ride to be irresponsible.

    As long as you are willing to pay more in taxes to feed poor children, clothe them, house them, then sure...

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chickenhawks View Post
    As long as you are willing to pay more in taxes to feed poor children, clothe them, house them, then sure...
    I don't think we should be doing that either.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    would you rather pay welfare?
    No, I think we need to expect responsible behavior and punish those who refuse to do so.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, I think we need to expect responsible behavior and punish those who refuse to do so.
    So it is fair to make hundreds of thousands of children suffer because their parents made a bad (or multiple) decisions? The children are the real people who pay the price, and it is not fair, they had no say in the matter, they did not force their mother to do anything yet they will be the ones that are most effected.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    has america goes further and further into the evil of democracy, we shall destroy ourselves, as people continue to push for new rights, so they can they create things for themselves.


    “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty. When clear prospects are opened before vanity, pride, avarice, or ambition, for their easy gratification, it is hard for the most considerate philosophers and the most conscientious moralists to resist the temptation. Individuals have conquered themselves. Nations and large bodies of men, never.”
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