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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I'd almost rather they use my tax dollars for tube tying and vasectomies for those too incompetent to be responsible parents.
    If they use it for the long acting IUD's like they did in the test project the failure rate is just .03 percent. About the same failure rate for tubal ligations or vesectomies.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Except in the following project the poor did use the free contraceptives and unwanted pregnancies dropped dramatically.
    How about we just ask them to be responsible? Nah... never happen.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    How about we just ask them to be responsible? Nah... never happen.
    How about we help them become responsible by giving them the birth control tools they need to help get them out the cycle of poverty.

    A single person may be able to able to get by (barely)on minimum wage but a woman with children cannot feed her dependants and provide daycare on a minimum wage.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    How about we help them become responsible by giving them the birth control tools they need to help get them out the cycle of poverty.

    A single person may be able to able to get by (barely)on minimum wage but a woman with children cannot feed her dependants and provide daycare on a minimum wage.
    Well here's a solution... don't HAVE children until you can afford it! That's responsibility! Don't do things that you cannot afford to do. Get an education when you have a chance. Don't get involved with drugs or gangs. Keep your legs together. Yes, that applies to both genders. Being responsible means acting responsible. It doesn't mean having a safety net so that you can still act irresponsibly, just not suffer the consequences.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Why shouldn't you buy the goods you want and I buy the goods I want?

    Why should the taxpayer pay someone to manufacture condoms in his or her role as a taxpayer rather than as a consumer of condoms?
    The less people there are the less need for spending. Condoms and contraceptives by thier very nature = less people being born. So in the long run helping to prevent unwanted pregnancies helps you out.

    Now you will no doubt dispute that but think on it before you do. How much taxes are spent on feeding people? Oh I know, many think that should be stopped also. Along with any other kind of handout. But the fact of that matter is that we ARE feeding them and that is not going to stop any time soon. If and when such a thing is stopped then you might have a valid case. But until it does its only common sense to provide ways that will help mititage how much is spent.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    No one should ever pay for goods and/or services they did not receive.
    So if you never need cops assistance then you shouldn't have to pay to keep them going?
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Well here's a solution... don't HAVE children until you can afford it! That's responsibility! Don't do things that you cannot afford to do. Get an education when you have a chance. Don't get involved with drugs or gangs. Keep your legs together. Yes, that applies to both genders. Being responsible means acting responsible. It doesn't mean having a safety net so that you can still act irresponsibly, just not suffer the consequences.
    People are not going to stop having sex just because sometimes women become pregnant.

    If we stop the unwanted pregnancies more girls/women would continue to get an education. They can learn to become responsible tax paying citizens who do not need to rely on welfare.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Well here's a solution... don't HAVE children until you can afford it! That's responsibility! Don't do things that you cannot afford to do. Get an education when you have a chance. Don't get involved with drugs or gangs. Keep your legs together. Yes, that applies to both genders. Being responsible means acting responsible. It doesn't mean having a safety net so that you can still act irresponsibly, just not suffer the consequences.
    So you really think that thousands of years of evolutionary instinct is that easy to ignore? Tell me, do you know of even ONE person in this entire world that hasn't had sex by the time they die of natural causes?

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Most of us work to make decent money and yes a portion of that income is taxed. I happen to be in one higher taxed brackets.
    If giving free birth control to the poor helps the USA to have less unwanted children than please use some my taxes for free birth control.
    I would rather there were less unwanted children in our country than more hungry unwanted, poor, children who will continue the cycle of poverty.
    I would rather the poor get their act together so there are less poor all together.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    I would rather the poor get their act together so there are less poor all together.
    Through out the entireity of human kinds existance has there ever ONCE been a time when there was no poor in any give society? Of course not. Know why? Because it is a physical impossibility. Particularly when capitalism is involved. By its very nature, especially when combined with the human nature of greed, there will always be those that are poor. Not every poor person is lazy or doesn't try to get out of being poor. But between Capitalism and human Greed they stand no chance.
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