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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    In other words, I don't owe the poor anything and they have no right to demand it of me.
    Legally that is correct. Morally I should say that those who have the ability to give, should. But equally morally I would say that one should not set that rate for another.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Legally that is correct. Morally I should say that those who have the ability to give, should. But equally morally I would say that one should not set that rate for another.
    I'd say people have a moral responsibility to get the hell off welfare and on their own two feet so they don't have to depend on others. Funny how few actually do that.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'd say people have a moral responsibility to get the hell off welfare and on their own two feet so they don't have to depend on others. Funny how few actually do that.
    Yes. It's also funny how many people think it's perfectly okay to take the money that other people have earned, if a middle-man takes it and gives it to them, but also believe that theft is wrong, and would willingly fight to keep someone from stealing their stuff.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'd say people have a moral responsibility to get the hell off welfare and on their own two feet so they don't have to depend on others.
    I would agree, and I would go further and say that it is wrong of us not to care if we design an idiotic welfare state that makes it harder and punishes them for attempting to do so.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    I say no. Being able to get these things at the expense of others not only enables bad behavior, but reinforces the entitlement ideology. Men and women should take responsibility for their decisions, not get a free ride to be irresponsible.
    You must want to pay welfare for the population growth that will be unemployable because we will exceed the carrying capacity of our nation. It's a small price.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by USNationalist View Post
    You must want to pay welfare for the population growth that will be unemployable because we will exceed the carrying capacity of our nation. It's a small price.
    That's another discussion. I don't agree with paying the poor anything unless they're actively trying to better their lives. We're talking about contraception, but I realize that exposure to poverty is a consequence of unplanned pregnancies; but so should the people having the babies.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by USNationalist View Post
    You must want to pay welfare for the population growth that will be unemployable because we will exceed the carrying capacity of our nation. It's a small price.
    not at all - production begats production; the notion that we should worry about overpopulating ourselves (when the opposite is a more realistic worry at this point) is a chimera.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I would agree, and I would go further and say that it is wrong of us not to care if we design an idiotic welfare state that makes it harder and punishes them for attempting to do so.
    Oh, absolutely, but blame the liberals for that, they're the ones who buy votes by giving freebies to the poor. Hell, blame both parties for that anymore since both the Democrats and Republicans are fiscally liberal parties anymore.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    not at all - production begats production; the notion that we should worry about overpopulating ourselves (when the opposite is a more realistic worry at this point) is a chimera.
    The US has more births than deaths and our material and energy for sustainability is finite. My argument is no chimera.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    I say no. Being able to get these things at the expense of others not only enables bad behavior, but reinforces the entitlement ideology. Men and women should take responsibility for their decisions, not get a free ride to be irresponsible.
    The government pays for mens condoms. So why not womens contraceptives?
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