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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Yes but very few schools..not even a majority and this poll was about womens contraceptives not children....Im personally for health insurers paying for contraception for women that dont want to have an unwanted child...makes more sense and money much better spent to me than insurers paying for viagra and the like for worn out old men an non performing juniors
    I am all for insurance companies covering what insurance companies want to cover. If they don't want to cover contraceptives, so be it. Women who want insurance to pay for their contraceptives will choose a different insurance company. Others will prefer to pay lower premiums for their insurance and pay for their contraceptives out of pocket.

    I am 100% opposed to the federal government telling me that I have to buy anything for somebody else to have sex; and I am 100% opposed to the federal government telling any private business that they must provide anything free to anybody.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I am all for insurance companies covering what insurance companies want to cover. If they don't want to cover contraceptives, so be it. Women who want insurance to pay for their contraceptives will choose a different insurance company. Others will prefer to pay lower premiums for their insurance and pay for their contraceptives out of pocket.

    I am 100% opposed to the federal government telling me that I have to buy anything for somebody else to have sex; and I am 100% opposed to the federal government telling any private business that they must provide anything free to anybody.
    Oh lets not make any mistake...YOU will pay eventually...and if you have to pay for prison for an unwanted kid that could cost MILLIONS upon millions...have it your way

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Oh lets not make any mistake...YOU will pay eventually...and if you have to pay for prison for an unwanted kid that could cost MILLIONS upon millions...have it your way
    I am already paying to feed, cloth, house, educate, and provide healthcare for children that the parents cannot or will not support. I am already paying to incarcerate the very high percentage of these kids who get in trouble with the law. And since no woman in the country who wants to have contraceptives is currently required to go without them whether or not she pays for them herself, I am pretty darn sure that the federal government requiring that everybody get their contraceptives without having to pay for them is not going to change that picture.

    Far better to focus on creating a system that does not reward people for having children they cannot or will not support, and a system that does not leave children with such irresponsible parents. Again, if there is no profit to be had in producing children that it will be up to the rest of us to support, there will be far far fewer such children produced.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I am already paying to feed, cloth, house, educate, and provide healthcare for children that the parents cannot or will not support. I am already paying to incarcerate the very high percentage of these kids who get in trouble with the law. And since no woman in the country who wants to have contraceptives is currently required to go without them whether or not she pays for them herself, I am pretty darn sure that the federal government requiring that everybody get their contraceptives without having to pay for them is not going to change that picture.

    Far better to focus on creating a system that does not reward people for having children they cannot or will not support, and a system that does not leave children with such irresponsible parents. Again, if there is no profit to be had in producing children that it will be up to the rest of us to support, there will be far far fewer such children produced.
    Ok...you need to have this conversation with someone else...Im not buying into your tears thanks

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ok...you need to have this conversation with someone else...Im not buying into your tears thanks
    No tears here, except for those poor kids. When you have worked with those kids for as many years as I have, you might have a different perspective too.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    No tears here, except for those poor kids. When you have worked with those kids for as many years as I have, you might have a different perspective too.
    I worked very closely with those kids and kids that had a much worse plight...ive seen things I truly wished I hadnt...but thats not here or there...
    Giving contraceptives to kids is one thing...if you dont give them to their parents who are going to keep producing the kids you feel so much for you will have even more and it will COST far more...thats my whole point.
    You cant neglect the problem every step of the way whining about the cost...because there is an END of the line and the end of the line costs far far more in dollars and misery for them and everyone else....there are no other alternatives or outcomes

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Giving contraceptives to kids is one thing...if you dont give them to their parents who are going to keep producing the kids you feel so much for you will have even more and it will COST far more...thats my whole point.
    The problem is, contraceptives and the like are just a bandage to cover up the real issue. We've raised a generation or two of kids to be totally irresponsible and now, when they're just doing whatever they want because they figure someone will come along and clean up after them, we're not smacking them in the head and educating them, we're just saying "here, take this and keep doing what you were doing".

    The real problems are liberal irresponsibility and religion and nobody is doing a damn thing to address either.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I worked very closely with those kids and kids that had a much worse plight...ive seen things I truly wished I hadnt...but thats not here or there...
    Giving contraceptives to kids is one thing...if you dont give them to their parents who are going to keep producing the kids you feel so much for you will have even more and it will COST far more...thats my whole point.
    You cant neglect the problem every step of the way whining about the cost...because there is an END of the line and the end of the line costs far far more in dollars and misery for them and everyone else....there are no other alternatives or outcomes
    For me, the cost is not the issue. It is the principle of freedom and also good intentions producing unintended negative consequences. The federal government should never have the power to force one person to support another. The federal goverment should never have the power to force any public institution to furnish any tangible product for free and it certainly should not have the power to force any private business to provide any product or service for free. That does not negate anybody doing so voluntarily.

    The bottom line is not a matter of cost, though of course how we spend the people's money must factor costs and results in order for us to use it wisely. But the bottom line is whether subsidizing or rewarding poor choices encourages more poor choices. I think the evidence is pretty clear that it does.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Except for the fact that it isn't. Overcrowding is a problem, and resource shortages are a problem... and neither of those has to do with a shortage of space or resources. It's because our infrastructure and systems of distribution are inefficient. The Earth can support a population several times what it is currently... and current projections show that it will never exceed 10 billion people.
    How do resource shortages have nothing to do with a shortage of resources?
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    The whole notion that we must pay for contraception so we don't pay for the kids is ridiculous extortionist logic IMO. I am all for paying for fewer of the kids too,

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