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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I will probably be branded hard hearted, but I think people should take responsibility for what they choose to do.

    Those who can't afford to buy their own contraceptives should not be having sex.
    Those who can't afford to provide adequate housing, food, shelter, clothing, education, etc. for their children should not have them.
    Those who cannot or will not provide adequate housing, food, shelter, clothing, education etc. for their children should have their children taken away from them.

    Make these American values again and the cultural norm, and the problem on all fronts is solved.
    Agree with you on all counts. Unfortunately we've set in this ideology of entitlement and now everyone who can't provide for themselves (willingly or not) feel that the people who can owe them something. I'm not working so those people can ride on my back (or the country's back) without getting something in return; things they're not providing right now.

    If you are unwilling to support yourself, why should I be willing to?
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I will probably be branded hard hearted, but I think people should take responsibility for what they choose to do.

    Those who can't afford to buy their own contraceptives should not be having sex.
    Those who can't afford to provide adequate housing, food, shelter, clothing, education, etc. for their children should not have them.
    Those who cannot or will not provide adequate housing, food, shelter, clothing, education etc. for their children should have their children taken away from them.

    Make these American values again and the cultural norm, and the problem on all fronts is solved.
    You know, except for all the blueballs and orphans.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    I say no. Being able to get these things at the expense of others not only enables bad behavior, but reinforces the entitlement ideology. Men and women should take responsibility for their decisions, not get a free ride to be irresponsible.
    Yes, and the tax-payer should have to pay for my tithing as well. Both are voluntary actions and protected behaviors, so if we're going to have an entitlement sociaty then let's just do it.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    You know, except for all the blueballs and orphans.
    There are all kinds of ways to take care of the first without engaging in risky sex.

    And I am guessing that if women can't look forward to a government check in reward for having a baby, they won't want and won't be having a lot of babies they can't support. It won't cost us nearly as much to rear the few kids that the parents don't want and won't support in a good private or public orphanage where the kids will be housed, fed, clothed, educated, and loved. Such kids don't wind up running in gangs, aren't subject to being beat up or killed as a routine part of life, and they are very unlikely to land in prison or grow up expecting or needing welfare.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    There are all kinds of ways to take care of the first without engaging in risky sex.
    Ya, well you go to hell for that too. If you're going to do the time, might as well do the better crime.

    And I am guessing that if women can't look forward to a government check in reward for having a baby, they won't want and won't be having a lot of babies they can't support.
    Uhh, I think that's an argument for a different thread. This ones about giving those women contraceptives so the gubmint avoids writing that check.

    It won't cost us nearly as much to rear the few kids that the parents don't want and won't support in a good private or public orphanage where the kids will be housed, fed, clothed, educated, and loved. Such kids don't wind up running in gangs, aren't subject to being beat up or killed as a routine part of life, and they are very unlikely to land in prison or grow up expecting or needing welfare.
    I was going to write a response to this comment but I kept spitting up on my chin.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes, and the tax-payer should have to pay for my tithing as well. Both are voluntary actions and protected behaviors, so if we're going to have an entitlement sociaty then let's just do it.
    Well I don't want to pay for your dental care which I think is a voluntary decision. You should pay for your own cleaning and fillings and quit demanding the taxpayer foot what is essentially a personal responsibility.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes, and the tax-payer should have to pay for my tithing as well. Both are voluntary actions and protected behaviors, so if we're going to have an entitlement sociaty then let's just do it.
    I don't want an entitlement society. We cannot support a fully entitled society. The ideology of such an idea is something that we can't even be trusted with since so many people already take advantage of the system. We would bankrupt ourselves in a heartbeat.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Well I don't want to pay for your dental care which I think is a voluntary decision. You should pay for your own cleaning and fillings and quit demanding the taxpayer foot what is essentially a personal responsibility.
    I've earned TriCare, you can go fry an egg.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I've earned TriCare, you can go fry an egg.
    So you believe you are entitled...

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    So you believe you are entitled...
    First, post 343 was sarcastic as I'm known for my support of the destruction of ObamaCare and social security.

    Secondly, access to TriCare can only be earned through military or federal service. It's a reward for service, not an entitlement.

    I earned what I have. Maybe learn something about someone before making it personal.

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