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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Most health insurance insurance also covers the cost of pregnancy and childbirth.

    In 2007 the average cost of a "normal" pregnancy and childbirth was $7,600.

    Pregnancy Health Coverage - How Much of My Pregnancy Costs Will My Insurance Cover?

    THe cost of covering co-pays for BC on those already insured is much, much less.

    I would think the insurance companies will actually be saving money.
    How would they save money by covering women for something, with no cost out of pocket, when these women were more likely to purchase and use, regardless of the subsidy?

    Would we save money by providing free bc to poor women?
    The answer is likely yes.

    That, however, isn't what this mandate does.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    How would they save money by covering women for something, with no cost out of pocket, when these women were more likely to purchase and use, regardless of the subsidy?

    Would we save money by providing free bc to poor women?
    The answer is likely yes.

    That, however, isn't what this mandate does.
    Because there will be fewer unwanted pregnancies.

    About half of the women with unwanted pregnancies end up continuing their pregnancy and giving childbirth which is far more expensive than Birth control.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    No I'm not. The stupidity of calling contraceptive use "bad behavior" is totally separate from the issue of whether or not we should provide it to impoverished women. I was simply pointing out that it is, indeed, stupidity.

    We should provide it to impoverished women because it's economically and socially prudent to do so, and because poor people are entitled to a certain standard of quality of life too, which is why we have medical care for the poor to begin with.
    It may or may not be the prudent thing for them to do. We were "low income" when we had our two boys. That does not mean that we would have had the right to insist that others cover our bills for birth control.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    A <SNIP> from this artile:

    Study shows birth control saves taxpayer money



    By David Edwards
    Wednesday, March 7, 2012 13:16 EDT

    <SNIP>
    A report released by The Brookings Institution this week showed that a $235 million program to expand access to Medicaid family planning would actually result in a savings of $1.35 billion. That’s a return on investment of over 500 percent.

    Mass media campaigns and teen pregnancy prevention programs also resulted in savings, but to a lesser degree.

    “Unintended pregnancy is a widespread problem with far-reaching implications: almost half of all pregnancies in the United States are unintended, and the women and children involved in these pregnancies are disproportionately likely to experience a range of negative outcomes,” Georgetown Public Policy Institute Adam Thomas, who authored the paper, explained.

    “The research also shows that each dollar spent on these policies would produce taxpayer savings of between two and six dollars.”
    Study shows birth control saves taxpayer money | The Raw Story
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Interesting peeling of the onion here.

    The base concept of medical insurance is by combining people the insurance company makes a tidy profit and spreads the day to day costs of medical care across a broad base of people. It is socialism and capitalism combined.

    But some only want what THEY need as part of the package and other folks needs are to be offered as separate riders. I don't believe the BC will be 100% free, nothing in health insurance is 100% covered but the amount added to each policy would be minor unless the insurance company uses it as an excuse to jack everyone up.

    I know some are very partisan on this, seems to me the true libertarian ideal would be no employer subsidy, every man for himself with no herd mentality. Ummm what my wife and I have as independent worker/business owners.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Cheaper than WIC, but I don't think the government ought to be paying for contraception, unless the individual is indigent and qualifies for public assistance.

    I do think that the government should give a tax exemption for each years supply of tampons or sanitary napkins. It's an unfair expense, just because we are women. Men have no items that they HAVE to buy...they can let their beards grow down to their patooties if they like.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Because there will be fewer unwanted pregnancies.

    About half of the women with unwanted pregnancies end up continuing their pregnancy and giving childbirth which is far more expensive than Birth control.
    The majority of unintended pregnancies come from poor women and it has been growing over the years.
    While the unintended pregnancy rate for higher income women has been falling.
    This is all before the bc mandate.

    Giving poor women free bc makes sense, giving upper income women free birth control does not.

    Poorest U.S. Women Increasingly Likely to Face Unintended Pregnancies
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    The Taliban and Al Queda aren't a country themselves, but they reside within countries that harbor and support terrorism and Islamic extremism. The goal (which has sorely been failed at) was to root out those two groups and others like it within the harboring nations, and provide those nations with a governmental structure to keep it from happening again.

    As for Iraq, those people were being oppressed by a dictator. Whether or not there were WMDs, Saddam Hussein needed to be removed from power. Left there, eventually he and Iran would become a far larger problem than they are currently.

    This has been derailed. Again.
    Oh come on. We didn't invade because Saddam was a mean dictator. He was supposed to be a threat to us, and no WMDs were ever found. Iraq was the wrong country to invade. We don't need to spend billions of dollars and thousands of American lives to invade a country that is not a threat to us. It shouldn't be our first thought to do that to a country that IS a threat to us. I know this doesn't directly relate to the topic, but I just can't believe someone would still defend that awful decision. We need to sort out our priorities here. If people are willing to spend billions of dollars to invade a country, lose tens of thousands of lives, and reap no benefit, but get all up in arms about supporting our citizens here, there's a big problem.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Donahue View Post
    How about you raise your own children and let me raise mine?
    I've done mine. You do your's. And the ones that don't or can't do it for the extra childred do it anyway even though they can't do it right. Yup, that works too. In fact everything and anything works; and the results are not a surprise.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    What about the freee ride the rich get on healthcare? poor pay and only the rich collect?
    What are you talking about? The poor do not pay for the rich's insurance premiums (if they even care to get insurance). If anything, it's the rich that make insurance available to anyone at all.
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