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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    And if you give women who cannot afford birth control, free birth control, as demonstrated, they will be responsible and use it. So why can't you do both? Birth control is not a short term problem. Everyday girls become sexually active. It's a continuous, never ending problem.
    There is only conflicting proof of the statement.
    The fact is that free or reduced cost birth control was already available to low income/poor women.

    Giving all birth control users (Upper, Middle and Low income) free birth control, doesn't help poor women get free stuff, that they could already get.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anrch-Cptlst View Post
    So why did it cost the U.S. that much?
    Because of the entitlement ideology. Those people expect aid for their mistakes.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    How would you force them?
    By taking away all incentives not to.

    It would be work or starve and I just don't see a problem with that.

    Certainly there are some people who genuinely can't work and I don't have any problems with a government providing for those people. I also don't have any problems with a small, temporary safety net to get people back on their feet.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    And yet...



    So it's better to be paying for the results of unplanned pregnancies than to spend less and prevent them. Check.
    Again, it's the entitlement ideology that needs to end. Supporting programs that give people free stuff, especially those who claim to need it, does nothing but enable that behavior.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    I say no. Being able to get these things at the expense of others not only enables bad behavior, but reinforces the entitlement ideology. Men and women should take responsibility for their decisions, not get a free ride to be irresponsible.
    If we can pay for 4 unnecessary wars, and if we can pay to bailout Wall Street, we can pay for contraceptives to women who need or want it.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    So it's better to be paying for the results of unplanned pregnancies than to spend less and prevent them. Check.
    None of us are suggesting we should pay for the results of unplanned pregnancies though.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    If we can pay for 4 unnecessary wars, and if we can pay to bailout Wall Street, we can pay for contraceptives to women who need or want it.
    Okay the war comment is another discussion that doesn't belong here, but if someone flew a plane into one of your very important buildings, killing thousands of people, would you give them a slap on the wrist and send them on their way? I rather doubt it. And I think the bailout was absolutely unnecessary and reckless. Business is business, if you go out of it, tough luck.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    If we can pay for 4 unnecessary wars, and if we can pay to bailout Wall Street, we can pay for contraceptives to women who need or want it.
    Just because we can do things, doesn't mean we should do these things.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    Okay the war comment is another discussion that doesn't belong here, but if someone flew a plane into one of your very important buildings, killing thousands of people, would you give them a slap on the wrist and send them on their way? I rather doubt it.
    You're right.

    I would ask them exactly why they felt that flying a plane into one of my very important buildings and killing thousands of people was the only way to get my attention.

    And then I would talk to them to find out what their grievances were.

    Which cannot be limited to "they hate our freedoms" and is more like "you put soldiers on our holy lands."

    And flying planes into buildings has nothing to do with going to war in a useless attempt to keep people who want to get high from getting high.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Just because we can do things, doesn't mean we should do these things.
    Okay fine.

    Then let's stop fighting the unnecessary wars and stop bailing out Wall Street, and that way we can focus on paying for relatively cheap pharmaceuticals so women can have a better standard of living in our country.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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