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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    Your second paragraph lists things that people would normally use insurance to pay for and as I said, only the richest people in the country would be able to do so without insurance. What I'm saying is that those things require a healthcare professional to be properly addressed and cared for which costs a lot of money, hence the need for insurance. The use of a contraceptive (birth control prescriptions omitted) does not require some professional expertise, nor is it expensive. My complaint is why should I have to pay for it? Why should anyone else have to pay for it for the 12-15% who would be supposedly covered by this if it were amended to Obamacare? It's not my responsibility to bail someone out for their decision to have unprotected sex and doing so would reinforce that it's okay for them to do so. Entitlement and lack of responsibility are two ideologies we do not need spreading any further.
    Oh - I see . . . I misread her post . . . so my response to her didn't make much sense. I thought she was referring to people on insurance having to still cover it out of pocket.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    I hate to use an anecdotal reference, but I see plently of them at walmart. That said, I don't know anything about their current living situation, I can only judge by their character and their appearance, which I know is flimsy to go on. Generally speaking though, successful people don't dress trashy.
    LOL - doesn't mean they're like her - obsessively having children.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    LOL - doesn't mean they're like her - obsessively having children.
    That's why I didn't want to use an anecdotal reference. None the less, I see trashy people at walmart. Either they're trashy looking because they're poor and can't afford more, or they're choosing to look trashy. I think there's a fair distribution of both.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    That's why I didn't want to use an anecdotal reference. None the less, I see trashy people at walmart. Either they're trashy looking because they're poor and can't afford more, or they're choosing to look trashy. I think there's a fair distribution of both.
    Well - honestly - I'm not sure what you mean by trashy.

    Iv'e seen trashy defined in several ways . . . dressing 'too revealing' - like 'trampy'
    VS a few steps below casual - just unkempt and unconcerned - holy sweats, uggs and . . . some nameless top thing.

    What exactly are you referring to?
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - honestly - I'm not sure what you mean by trashy.

    Iv'e seen trashy defined in several ways . . . dressing 'too revealing' - like 'trampy'
    VS a few steps below casual - just unkempt and unconcerned - holy sweats, uggs and . . . some nameless top thing.

    What exactly are you referring to?
    I mean like looking unkempt, wearing either dirty clothing, or inappropriate clothing for the public, such as extremely baggy pants and a "wife beater". I once saw someone walking around with 3 pairs of pants on with the sole purpose of keeping his underwear/legs from showing while still allowing his pants to sag. It was one of the dumbest looks I've ever seen.
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    We, I do not want women having children they do not want to have, and the cost of such children are many, many thousands of times more costly to the country than the trivial costs of contraceptives.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    I mean like looking unkempt, wearing either dirty clothing, or inappropriate clothing for the public, such as extremely baggy pants and a "wife beater". I once saw someone walking around with 3 pairs of pants on with the sole purpose of keeping his underwear/legs from showing while still allowing his pants to sag. It was one of the dumbest looks I've ever seen.
    Wow - I have never seen that with the pants thing. . . down here it's just scummy clothes - old sweat pants with a crummy T or something. . . or PJ's. LOL - just unkempt. But I think some people think it's sexy or cuty. . .
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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Wow - I have never seen that with the pants thing. . . down here it's just scummy clothes - old sweat pants with a crummy T or something. . . or PJ's. LOL - just unkempt. But I think some people think it's sexy or cuty. . .
    Certain outfits can have it's certain appeal in certain places. In random public places though I think people should at least dress casually. If and when I go to Walmart, I try to go late at night to avoid the eyesore.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    I do think that we should pay for contraceptives. Although my initial reaction was, no, the more I thought about how we pay for liver treatments for people who drank to an oblivion and cancer treatment for people who smoked all they wanted and emergency care for those drink, drive and wreck themselves. It seems that at least contraceptives will prevent further addition to our communities that we have to also...pay for. If we have deemed them poor enough for us to provide all their living expenses and medical care anyway, we might as well pay for contraceptives too. If not for any other reason than our own protection against further children being born for us to take care of in society.

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    Re: Should the country pay for women's contraceptives?

    Quote Originally Posted by melons View Post
    I do think that we should pay for contraceptives. Although my initial reaction was, no, the more I thought about how we pay for liver treatments for people who drank to an oblivion and cancer treatment for people who smoked all they wanted and emergency care for those drink, drive and wreck themselves. It seems that at least contraceptives will prevent further addition to our communities that we have to also...pay for. If we have deemed them poor enough for us to provide all their living expenses and medical care anyway, we might as well pay for contraceptives too. If not for any other reason than our own protection against further children being born for us to take care of in society.
    But how many things are we going to say "we might as well pay for that too" to? The idea is to get people off government dependency, not reinforce the idea that there is a safety net for everyone.
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