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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    I would absolutely support male contraceptives. But if we really want to allow men to control their own reproductive destinies, we need to put an end to the coercive laws that make men responsible for the reproductive decisions of women.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    4. Of course I support contraception for men. It's sad that, in 2012, there's still nothing but condoms and vasectomies.
    There's the temporary plastic clip vasectomies. Don't know why those aren't more popular.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yes, and on that note - I swear they don't pay enough attention to the negative side effects that come from women taking said contraception. I was prescribed several different types and very little was dedicated to discussing the negative aspects so I can make a fully informed decision.

    Drs tend to just gloss that over - nevermind that if it alters chemical and hormonal balance it can really **** your head up.
    Imo, since men have one primary sex hormone, it would tend to make me even more cautious than I am with the BC issue. As for doctors, they realize how BC works, but I'm not sure they understand the extent to which hormonal imbalances cause mental and emotional disturbances.
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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    There's the temporary plastic clip vasectomies. Don't know why those aren't more popular.
    Because they're only theoretically reversible. They may cause enough scarring that even when removed, he remains sterile. Also, they are somewhat less effective than traditional vasectomies.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Since the 20th century introduction of female contraceptives, women are for the 1st time capable of commanding their own lives. (Even getting rid of men for their happiness, in extreme cases, such as feminism.) We men could achieve the same independence from women (and ourselves) if we had a similar contraceptive. I propose an applied research that results in such individual control over fertility, libido, and social imperatives, as the one that women gain out of the existing female products. Would you support such a development?
    I have no clue what you post is about lol

    but of course Id support male birth control and they are already working on some and have some.
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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    'Temporary' vasectomy device highlighted at conference | Science Codex

    You're right. Long-term studies are still needed.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    And whatever else you said - it honestly makes little sense. Are you suggesting that controlling our lives centers around the legalization of birth control (it was around long before it was legal in the US)

    And being a feminist doesn't mean I got rid of my want of being in a relationship - I am married. So I don't follow what you meant by that.

    And I don't think that using birth control on behalf of a man is going to make him 'less dependent' (or whatever you're trying to say) on women.
    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was essentially speaking more about freedom from pregnancy and parenthood, not from women per say. Just reproductive choice and safeguard. This has already been accomplished for women, not just by the development and availability of better birth control, but also by the legalization of abortion. Women no longer need to be concerned about accidentally getting pregnant and becoming trapped in that pregnancy, having the rest of their lives completely altered with no say in the matter. Today, they can control (for the most part) when and if a pregnancy occurs through use of highly effective birth control, and in the case of accidental pregnancy, there is an avenue through which they can opt out of the life-altering responsibility it carries with it.

    Men, on the other hand, have little or none of that same control. There is really only one method of birth control available to men (setting aside abstinence for obvious reasons), and that is the condom. The male condom in it's typical use has a failure rate of 15-18%. That's pretty significant, and significantly higher than birth control pills. That makes men somewhat dependent on their partners because we have to trust that they are properly using their birth control method(s) to increase our safety. This becomes even more of an issue for men within the confines of a committed relationship because usually both partners wish to stop using such an obtrusive method when they are having sex exclusively with one another. That makes men entirely dependent on their partner since there is no unobtrusive male contraceptive, like a pill. All he can do is trust her to take hers. And most importantly, in the event that an unwanted pregnancy does take place, the man has no say whatsoever in what happens next. Men are not afforded an avenue of escape from that responsibility the way women are, so he is completely powerless in the matter. His entire future, or at least the next 20 years of his life, now lie in the hands of his female partner.

    I'm pretty sure that's what the OP meant when he talked about dependence.

    And to answer the OP, of course I'd support it, and I'd take it. Until I was ready to knock someone up, that is.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    I would absolutely support male contraceptives. But if we really want to allow men to control their own reproductive destinies, we need to put an end to the coercive laws that make men responsible for the reproductive decisions of women.
    Absolutely. I wish people would talk about this more. This should be a huge part of the abortion debate, at the very least.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was essentially speaking more about freedom from pregnancy and parenthood, not from women per say. Just reproductive choice and safeguard. This has already been accomplished for women, not just by the development and availability of better birth control, but also by the legalization of abortion. Women no longer need to be concerned about accidentally getting pregnant and becoming trapped in that pregnancy, having the rest of their lives completely altered with no say in the matter. Today, they can control (for the most part) when and if a pregnancy occurs through use of highly effective birth control, and in the case of accidental pregnancy, there is an avenue through which they can opt out of the life-altering responsibility it carries with it.

    Men, on the other hand, have little or none of that same control. There is really only one method of birth control available to men (setting aside abstinence for obvious reasons), and that is the condom. The male condom in it's typical use has a failure rate of 15-18%. That's pretty significant, and significantly higher than birth control pills. That makes men somewhat dependent on their partners because we have to trust that they are properly using their birth control method(s) to increase our safety. This becomes even more of an issue for men within the confines of a committed relationship because usually both partners wish to stop using such an obtrusive method when they are having sex exclusively with one another. That makes men entirely dependent on their partner since there is no unobtrusive male contraceptive, like a pill. All he can do is trust her to take hers. And most importantly, in the event that an unwanted pregnancy does take place, the man has no say whatsoever in what happens next. Men are not afforded an avenue of escape from that responsibility the way women are, so he is completely powerless in the matter. His entire future, or at least the next 20 years of his life, now lie in the hands of his female partner.

    I'm pretty sure that's what the OP meant when he talked about dependence.

    And to answer the OP, of course I'd support it, and I'd take it. Until I was ready to knock someone up, that is.
    Ah - ok . . .thanks. Because i wasn't quite sure what he was getting at.

    I think men just really need to accept that it's the risk they take when they have sex. Well - everyone needs to understand that. But it's problematic (not being able to secure abortion per being the male) because the issue is that it's happening with her body - and of course others cannot force one to undergo a medical procedure.

    When nature developed beings that were male and female things were just off that way from the start - the guys have less say and the women have more misery that goes with it.

    Nothing is going to change that - that's just nature. . . no pill or legislation is going to equal out that perceived imbalance. . . because believe me - I'd be happy to not have to be the bearer of the children around here. That would have been good to go without in my life.
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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    I would absolutely support male contraceptives. But if we really want to allow men to control their own reproductive destinies, we need to put an end to the coercive laws that make men responsible for the reproductive decisions of women.
    Only if we up the amount and type of support given to the increased number of single moms would I consider it.

    But honestly - our society needs to just put a lot more emphasis on stressign the importance of making wise preventative decisions - and talking about it. A conversation like 'hey - if we're going ot have sex we need to talk about what happens if you end up pregnant'

    You know - some men have proof of said discussions in which she said 'yes - I would want to abort' and he agreed. . . and eventually she ended up pregnant - and did not abort - and he was able to remove himself from support-requirements because she changed her mind.

    I don't see what's wrong with that - ****ty to the kid but hey. . . so is having to be stuck with a parent who doesn't want you.
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