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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Since the 20th century introduction of female contraceptives, women are for the 1st time capable of commanding their own lives. (Even getting rid of men for their happiness, in extreme cases, such as feminism.) We men could achieve the same independence from women (and ourselves) if we had a similar contraceptive. I propose an applied research that results in such individual control over fertility, libido, and social imperatives, as the one that women gain out of the existing female products. Would you support such a development?
    What does that even mean? Seriously, it's frustrating that someone would even say something like that.

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    You want independence from a woman...while having sex with that woman? Ummm, what? That doesn't follow. Sex is a partnership so if you want to be independent from her then don't have sex her.

    2. What does 'independence from ourselves' mean? How do you ever escape being around yourself? Drugs? What are you talking about? Shouldn't you always be able to trust and rely on yourself? Isn't relying on yourself the very essence of independence? Is there more than one of you in your body, like conjoined souls or something?

    Yeah, male contraception is all well and good, abstinence, vasectomy, condoms, whatever floats your boat. I don't see how any of that makes you independent from yourself, a sex-partner or anyone else, though.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I would pretty much leave that decision up to men. If they had hormonal effects, similar to the way BC has on women, I would definitely be cautious (if I were a man). Interferring too much with male hormone production and release could have some pretty serious consequences imo. I guess it depends on the mode of action.
    If that effect is as positive and calming as in women, it might be not that bad. Sometimes men need to be saved from themselves, I speculate. Why do you say that it is negative?

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What does that even mean? Seriously, it's frustrating that someone would even say something like that.

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    You want independence from a woman...while having sex with that woman? Ummm, what? That doesn't follow. Sex is a partnership so if you want to be independent from her then don't have sex her.

    2. What does 'independence from ourselves' mean? How do you ever escape being around yourself? Drugs? What are you talking about? Shouldn't you always be able to trust and rely on yourself? Isn't relying on yourself the very essence of independence? Is there more than one of you in your body, like conjoined souls or something?

    Yeah, male contraception is all well and good, abstinence, vasectomy, condoms, whatever floats your boat. I don't see how any of that makes you independent from yourself, a sex-partner or anyone else, though.
    Women have a good control over their biology and feelings. We men are too dependent on them. They use technology to achieve their favorable state. I think we men should do the same.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    It's called a condom... or pulling out. Besides, one more pill in my regimen and I'll be using an oil filter for a liver.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    We men are too dependent on them.
    Wtf?

    Even when I was married I wasn't dependent on any woman's feelings. I've been single and abstinent for 5 years now and I'm not in any way dependent on any woman's feelings. I don't even have a female boss or a female in my chain of command.

    You haven't clarified what you're talking about at all. I still have no idea what anything you've said means.

    Answer my questions:
    How can you be independent from a woman while literally inside her body?
    How can you ever be independent from yourself? How is that possible? How can you ever not be around yourself?
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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    India if i am not mistaken has just developed a male contraceptive that can last for 10 years and is completely reversible through a small injection of water

    Male Birth Control: New Procedure Is 100 Percent Effective, Reversible
    Absolutely excellent invention!

    (Although it still doesn't cover all angles.)

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    I think that it is primarily birth control, but it appears that there is some apparent mind control with it too, which is in women's own benefit.
    LOL! What in the hell are you talking about? What mind control? Are you saying that women have more will power than men? I don't think that is true at all. That is all dependent upon the PERSON. It has absolutely nothing to do with gender.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    ...Too bad, feminism has already created an entire industry that runs on the current legal status of men. That will not go away. ... Unless we get a technological help.

    Women are far less vested in social situations than men. I thought this was because of feminism+technology, but maybe it is not. The key for the improvement is then to free men from having to vest themselves in the social world, at least to the level where it is not more than women...
    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    ...But don't you think that if feminism was actually interested in resolving problems with pregnancy and child raring, then they would actually address that, instead of inventing legal schemes for money, out of the individual pockets of outsiders? Feminism is a formidable power because of technology...But we men need something that lets us match that, right? And that would be a similar technological control.

    To clarify: every woman goes and goes until she gets her planned pregnancy. (Including the "unplanned" ones.) Men have no choice here. My technological proposal will allow men to choose.
    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Oh no no no. I don't want to sound misogynist. I don't blame women. This is not a blame game but a game of statistics. My proposal is simply that it is technology that gives women control over their lives. Plus, that we men need more control too, at least something nearly as good as what women have today. What made me think about this issue was that the highest birth rate in America is exactly in those communities where neither the man nor the woman can support a child. Consequently, what they are missing is the male hormonal control.

    Women don't conspire against us men. They have technological control over themselves, not over us men. Wouldn't it be nice if we had a technological control over men too?
    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Women have a good control over their biology and feelings. We men are too dependent on them. They use technology to achieve their favorable state. I think we men should do the same.
    LOL - you sound insane. You honestly sound like you're paranoid or thinking that women have created this massive undoing controlling dominating cult over males an we only use them to get knocked up - and rich. : I laughed at the last line - women have good control over their biology and feelings . . . but men are too dependent on them. LOL What the hell dude?

    But I think what you're trying to say is that you want a hormonal form of birth control for men. . . see - so simple. "I support hormonal birth control for men." is all you had to say.
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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What does that even mean? Seriously, it's frustrating that someone would even say something like that.

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    You want independence from a woman...while having sex with that woman? Ummm, what? That doesn't follow. Sex is a partnership so if you want to be independent from her then don't have sex her.

    2. What does 'independence from ourselves' mean? How do you ever escape being around yourself? Drugs? What are you talking about? Shouldn't you always be able to trust and rely on yourself? Isn't relying on yourself the very essence of independence? Is there more than one of you in your body, like conjoined souls or something?

    Yeah, male contraception is all well and good, abstinence, vasectomy, condoms, whatever floats your boat. I don't see how any of that makes you independent from yourself, a sex-partner or anyone else, though.
    I think he's referring to sexual "feelings." I think he is talking about being aroused by women even when he consciously doesn't want to be aroused by them, and because he does have these feelings he feels he is "dependent" so to speak. He is pretty young, so I think he is still trying to figure some things out.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Like it some big mystery how 7 plus billion exist on the planet today...and not to mention the billions who came before us all. Sex is here to stay. I know that it grosses some out. I know some believe that it's only a holy event. And some believe that it's for reproduction only.

    I know where they sell "remove head from ass" tools.

    For vast majority of humanity...sex FEELS GOOD and DO IT FOR PLEASURE ONLY. Yep, sex does have dual functions. And yes the unintended act of sex can cause unintended conceptions. But the people who believe that humanity will conform to the more holy point of view about sexual behaviors...are kidding themselves and are in severe denial about reality.

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