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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Okay, I am not a feminism expert. But don't you think that if feminism was actually interested in resolving problems with pregnancy and child raring, then they would actually address that, instead of inventing legal schemes for money, out of the individual pockets of outsiders? Feminism is a formidable power because of technology. That is probably a good thing, women need to protect their interests, like everyone else. But we men need something that lets us match that, right? And that would be a similar technological control.

    To clarify: every woman goes and goes until she gets her planned pregnancy. (Including the "unplanned" ones.) Men have no choice here. My technological proposal will allow men to choose.
    First of all, explain the part I highlighted in your statement please.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Okay, I am not a feminism expert. But don't you think that if feminism was actually interested in resolving problems with pregnancy and child raring, then they would actually address that, instead of inventing legal schemes for money, out of the individual pockets of outsiders? Feminism is a formidable power because of technology. That is probably a good thing, women need to protect their interests, like everyone else. But we men need something that lets us match that, right? And that would be a similar technological control.

    To clarify: every woman goes and goes until she gets her planned pregnancy. (Including the "unplanned" ones.) Men have no choice here. My technological proposal will allow men to choose.
    Like I said, feminism DID NOT INVENT THAT SYSTEM. That system was invented by men before feminism even existed.

    You really shouldn't make baseless statements about things you obviously don't understand. For an address of your equally baseless and insulting pregnancy comment, see my post above.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    I really think the "men don't have a choice here" funny in ab9924's post. Men have a choice to say "no, I'm not going to have unprotected sex." Or "no, I'm not going to have sex at all" if you feel that strongly about it. If you have a problem with self-control, DON'T blame it on women. Your personal shortcomings are NOT our fault.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I really think the "men don't have a choice here" funny in ab9924's post. Men have a choice to say "no, I'm not going to have unprotected sex." Or "no, I'm not going to have sex at all" if you feel that strongly about it. If you have a problem with self-control, DON'T blame it on women. Your personal shortcomings are NOT our fault.
    Nope, and a woman's personal shortcoming of not wanting to support her own decisions isn't a man's fault.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Well, I have to log off soon, so if you don't respond in the next 10 minutes, I'll have to come back and see if you responded later on ab9924. I expect you have something to back up some of the claims you've made here.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Since the 20th century introduction of female contraceptives, women are for the 1st time capable of commanding their own lives. (Even getting rid of men for their happiness, in extreme cases, such as feminism.) We men could achieve the same independence from women (and ourselves) if we had a similar contraceptive. I propose an applied research that results in such individual control over fertility, libido, and social imperatives, as the one that women gain out of the existing female products. Would you support such a development?
    Im confused as to how blocking conception equates to independence. And actually, legalizing prostitution seems a better solution to reducing male dependence on females.

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. No wonder you have problems falling asleep at night! Little boys think about sex LONG before they are grown up, as do girls. Also, there are MANY women who do NOT want to have children. This is so misogynist, almost to the point of a conspiracy theory that all women are just trapping men to get pregnant and have their "quota" of babies. Intensive psychotherapy could be in order here.
    Oh no no no. I don't want to sound misogynist. I don't blame women. This is not a blame game but a game of statistics. My proposal is simply that it is technology that gives women control over their lives. Plus, that we men need more control too, at least something nearly as good as what women have today. What made me think about this issue was that the highest birth rate in America is exactly in those communities where neither the man nor the woman can support a child. Consequently, what they are missing is the male hormonal control.

    Women don't conspire against us men. They have technological control over themselves, not over us men. Wouldn't it be nice if we had a technological control over men too?

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Please, men are perfectly capable of saying no. As if men have no control over their urges.
    This may not be the urge, although that (if exists) would certainly benefit from chemical control. But would you be able to beat up your guilt about yourself after saying no to her?

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Excuse me, but bull****.

    I'm childfree just got fixed a couple months ago. I never wanted kids. I never even played "house" as a kid, unless I got to be the kooky aunt.

    You want to know what else? 20% of women will exit their fertile years without ever having children, many of them by choice, or simply because they never felt the desire to.

    Even before reliable birth control, some women went to great lengths to avoid having children, including primitive abortions and birth control or even avoiding sex with men.

    There is no "motherly instinct" until a woman actually has children. Just social pressure. And there is a LOT of social pressure. Take it from me -- childfree women get it worse than anyone. Any time something bad happens, it's "god punishing me" for not having kids, according to my Catholic family.
    Jesus Christ Smoke, your post is VERY educational ... I've never had the slightest and foggiest clue that women were actually under SOCIAL pressure to get pregnant. This is probably the same type of pressure that makes us men feel extremely guilty about ourselves if we say no to a woman.

    I heard stuff such as a woman who goes into menopause without children would regret her life and a man who says no to a woman is gay and not worthy to step into society. How do women fight off such biasses? (I know men don't.)

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    Re: Would you support a male contraceptive?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    First of all, explain the part I highlighted in your statement please.
    If you are a woman, you put together the arsenal of pills + ideology, and you can go very happily all your life without the burden of ever thinking of men. Such a liberation(?) doesn't exist for men.

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