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    Poll bias

    So now that Romney is doing better in polling, where did all the claims of poll rigging go?

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    So now that Romney is doing better in polling, where did all the claims of poll rigging go?
    What poll rigging?
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What poll rigging?
    All the panty twisting and crying about the media being in a conspiracy to make Romney's polling look worse than actual popular sentiment. Were you not here the last three weeks?

    To me, its a perfect example on how the opinion makers in the popular media truly lead the conservatives in this country like shephards.

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    All the panty twisting and crying about the media being in a conspiracy to make Romney's polling look worse than actual popular sentiment. Were you not here the last three weeks?

    To me, its a perfect example on how the opinion makers in the popular media truly lead the conservatives in this country like shephards.
    I was joking.
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    All the panty twisting and crying about the media being in a conspiracy to make Romney's polling look worse than actual popular sentiment. Were you not here the last three weeks?

    To me, its a perfect example on how the opinion makers in the popular media truly lead the conservatives in this country like shephards.
    Conspiracy?

    It's an established fact that certain polls were over sampling Democrats and under sampling Republican and independent voters.

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Donahue View Post
    Conspiracy?

    It's an established fact that certain polls were over sampling Democrats and under sampling Republican and independent voters.
    established?

    Poll Averages Have No History of Consistent Partisan Bias - NYTimes.com

    Presidential elections are high-stakes affairs. So perhaps it is no surprise that when supporters of one candidate do not like the message they are hearing from the polls they tend to blame the messenger.

    In 2004, Democratic Web sites were convinced that the polls were biased toward George W. Bush, asserting that they showed an implausible gain in the number of voters identifying as Republicans. But in fact, the polls were very near the actual result. Mr. Bush defeated John Kerry by 2.5 percentage points, close to (in fact just slightly better than) the 1- or 2-point lead that he had on average in the final polls. Exit polls that year found an equal number of voters describing themselves as Democrats and Republicans, also close to what the polls had predicted.

    Since President Obama gained ground in the polls after the Democrats’ convention, it has been the Republicans’ turn to make the same accusations. Some have said that the polls are “oversampling” Democrats and producing results that are biased in Mr. Obama’s favor. One Web site, unskewedpolls.com, contends that even Fox News is part of the racket in what it says is a “trend of skewed polls that oversample Democratic voters to produce results favorable for the president.”

    The criticisms are largely unsound, especially when couched in terms like “oversampling,” which implies that pollsters are deliberately rigging their samples.

    But pollsters, at least if they are following the industry’s standard guidelines, do not choose how many Democrats, Republicans or independent voters to put into their samples — any more than they choose the number of voters for Mr. Obama or Mitt Romney. Instead, this is determined by the responses of the voters that they reach after calling random numbers from telephone directories or registered voter lists.

    Pollsters will re-weight their numbers if the demographics of their sample diverge from Census Bureau data. For instance, it is typically more challenging to get younger voters on the phone, so most pollsters weight their samples by age to remedy this problem.

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    Re: Poll bias

    When the polls are good both sides (more one that the other) are silent. When they aren't they yell BIAS. WHAAa

    both sides need to grow up and smell the copier ink.

    There are polls out there that are unbiased
    There are polls out there that aren't
    There are polls out there generated by computers
    There are polls out there that aren't
    And there are polls out there that don't give a crap what you think which is probably most of them.

    Look at all of them, take and average and live with the result no matter what it is. Grow up
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Yes, it's an established fact and that quote did nothing to take away from it.

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    So now that Romney is doing better in polling, where did all the claims of poll rigging go?
    Internal emails between senior officials at The Gallup Organization, obtained by The Daily Caller, show senior Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod attempting to subtly intimidate the respected polling firm when its numbers were unfavorable to the president.

    After Gallup declined to change its polling methodology, Obama’s Department of Justice hit it with an unrelated lawsuit that appears damning on its face.

    TheDC is withholding the identities of the Gallup officials to protect them from potential retaliation from Obama’s campaign and his administration.
    Read more: DOJ Gallup lawsuit came after Axelrod criticized pollsters | The Daily Caller

    Employees at the venerable Gallup polling firm suggested they felt threatened by Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod when he questioned the methodology of a mid-April poll showing Mitt Romney leading the president – according to internal emails published Thursday.
    That poll showed Romney leading Obama 48-43 percent.

    The exchange, according to emails published by The Daily Caller, started when Axelrod sent a tweet saying the tracking poll was “saddled with some methodological problems” and directing followers to a National Journal story in which a professor suggested outdated sampling.
    According to the email chain titled “Axelrod vs. Gallup,” the White House in addition asked that a Gallup staffer “come over and explain our methodology,” which was apparently perceived as a subtle threat.

    A Gallup official said in an email he thought Axelrod’s pressure “sounds a little like a Godfather situation.”
    Read more: Emails suggest Axelrod leaned on Gallup after unfavorable poll | Fox News
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    Re: Poll bias

    The polls are still biased toward the democrats--Romney is just that fare ahead, so I will go with rootabega

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