View Poll Results: Where did all the biased polls go?

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  • They are still there, Romney is beloved by all, darn media! (except fox)

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    All I can tell you is that I saw it on PBS about a week ago and then heard in again on CBS news. They reported their information came from the "census bureau". MSNBC has also been stating this but not identifying thier source.
    I worked as an enumerator for the 2010 census and can insure you that the Census bureau does not track party identification. People are paranoid enough about being interviewed by the government without delving into their voter registration.
    There are 22 states that do not record party registration and most of those are in the south and west where the GOP is dominant. Any conjecture about the ratio of dems to reps is just that....a guess.

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    To be honest, that seems like a prudent change.
    Does the fact that the change was made shortly after Gallup was sued by the Justice Department seem a little suspicious to you?

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    So now that Romney is doing better in polling, where did all the claims of poll rigging go?
    The rigged polls are still there. Today's Washington Post/ABC poll showing Obama up by 3 oversampled dems by 9.

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    The rigged polls are still there. Today's Washington Post/ABC poll showing Obama up by 3 oversampled dems by 9.
    Good pollsters don't weight by Party ID.
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Does the fact that the change was made shortly after Gallup was sued by the Justice Department seem a little suspicious to you?
    Not the best time to change your methodology, but I think it's actually a good move, so if it helps the accuracy of their polling it is better now than never.
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    So now that Romney is doing better in polling, where did all the claims of poll rigging go?

    You obviously haven't listened to the talking heads' full theory! After the fact, the claim was that they knew this would happen: the polls had to align to reality with just weeks left before the election. Or they would lose their credibility.

    I grimace while doing it, but I listen to Hannity & Levin once a week to stay on top of these nuts.

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    To be honest, that seems like a prudent change.
    Not according to the Obama campaign. lol
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    Mitt Romney has opened a 5-percentage-point lead over President Obama in the 12 battleground states that are critical to determining the outcome of the 2012 election, according to a USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday
    The Obama campaign quickly disputed the poll's findings. It circulated a memo from pollster Joel Benenson calling the USA Today/Gallup poll “an extreme outlier” that defies “the trends seen in every other battleground and national poll.”
    Poll: Romney surges ahead of Obama in the dozen swing states - The Hill's Ballot Box

    The memo pointed to past Gallup surveys that deviated from the final outcome, and said the current results underscore “deep flaws in Gallup’s likely voter screen.”

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Not according to the Obama campaign. lol
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    Mitt Romney has opened a 5-percentage-point lead over President Obama in the 12 battleground states that are critical to determining the outcome of the 2012 election, according to a USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday
    The Obama campaign quickly disputed the poll's findings. It circulated a memo from pollster Joel Benenson calling the USA Today/Gallup poll “an extreme outlier” that defies “the trends seen in every other battleground and national poll.”
    Poll: Romney surges ahead of Obama in the dozen swing states - The Hill's Ballot Box

    The memo pointed to past Gallup surveys that deviated from the final outcome, and said the current results underscore “deep flaws in Gallup’s likely voter screen.”
    Well of course not. Neither side is going to admit they are losing. I do hate those swing state polls though. National polls and state polls are useful, but multiple state polls really aren't.
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    Re: Poll bias

    Gallup was one of the worst polls in 2008. They had Obama +11 on night before the election. LOL
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by duhu View Post
    Gallup was one of the worst polls in 2008. They had Obama +11 on night before the election. LOL
    You can't measure a pollster's credibility with one poll.
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