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    Re: Poll bias

    The polls are still biased in favor of the Democrats from overssampling this group. It is now such a landslide for Romney that even this oversampling cannot skew the results. It only lessens the margin that Romney is ahead by - perhaps 10+ points.
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by RenoCon View Post
    The polls are still biased in favor of the Democrats from overssampling this group. It is now such a landslide for Romney that even this oversampling cannot skew the results. It only lessens the margin that Romney is ahead by - perhaps 10+ points.
    Weighting by party affiliation is a bad idea for a pollster. Also, I think there is no chance Romney's up by anywhere near that much.
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    First off, I'm a Republican who's voting for Romney, I just happen to love polling and statistics. I am in no way endorsing Democratic policies, which for the most part I think are bad for the country.

    On the other hand, I do believe that polls are usually right. Oversampling Democrats isn't what is actually happening. Party Affiliation isn't something that should be weighted in a poll, because it is an attitude, and not an immutable demographic. It really doesn't matter when the methodology of a poll changes, if the changes are for the better. Cell-phone only households have been rapidly increasing, and correcting for that is a good idea.
    Except it does.

    People tend not to donate money to or turn out for lost causes. The timing of their change is pretty suspect; especially considering just how many in the mainstream media get tingling sensations in their inner thighs for Pres. Obama. If it wasn't an issue in 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, and almost all of 2012 then why is it suddenly an issue at the very point when Mitt Romney begins to cut into Pres. Obama's lead?

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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Donahue View Post
    Except it does.

    People tend not to donate money to or turn out for lost causes. The timing of their change is pretty suspect; especially considering just how many in the mainstream media get tingling sensations in their inner thighs for Pres. Obama. If it wasn't an issue in 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, and almost all of 2012 then why is it suddenly an issue at the very point when Mitt Romney begins to cut into Pres. Obama's lead?
    It was. They've been steadily increasing the amount of cell phones polled during the past few years.
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    It was. They've been steadily increasing the amount of cell phones polled during the past few years.
    And the 20% increase in nonwhites sampled this month?

    Let me take a stab at your opinion on this one: Good idea?



    Maybe I'm just a cynic but I just have a difficult time believing the media that has fawned over Pres. Obama throughout his term is making all of these last minute adjustments that "coincidentally" boost his numbers for the sake of accuracy.
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    Re: Poll bias

    The other thing to remember that according to the census bureau for the last 30 years there are more dems than reps by a wide margin in this country. So do the math
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Donahue View Post
    And the 20% increase in nonwhites sampled this month?

    Let me take a stab at your opinion on this one: Good idea?.
    Well, Gallup doesn't weight it's likely voter samples by race, so it isn't really something they intentionally did. As far as I can tell it only increased the amount of non-white voters from about 27% to 30%.
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    So now that Romney is doing better in polling, where did all the claims of poll rigging go?
    This poll is rigged.
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    The other thing to remember that according to the census bureau for the last 30 years there are more dems than reps by a wide margin in this country. So do the math
    I performed a curtsy search on census.gov and found nothing to substantiate this. Further I reviewed the 2010 census form and found that there was no place to indicate party affiliation. Can you please supply a link to said data? thx

    BUT if you are willing to consider another source:

    Trend in Party Identification | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

    This shows the D/R ratio in 2002 (certainly within the 'last 30 years) was 31%/30%, not the 'wide margin' you claim. Per this source this year it is 32%/24% which I will conceed is a significant margin...but certainly not wide.
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    Re: Poll bias

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    I performed a curtsy search on census.gov and found nothing to substantiate this. Further I reviewed the 2010 census form and found that there was no place to indicate party affiliation. Can you please supply a link to said data? thx

    BUT if you are willing to consider another source:

    Trend in Party Identification | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

    This shows the D/R ratio in 2002 (certainly within the 'last 30 years) was 31%/30%, not the 'wide margin' you claim. Per this source this year it is 32%/24% which I will conceed is a significant margin...but certainly not wide.
    All I can tell you is that I saw it on PBS about a week ago and then heard in again on CBS news. They reported their information came from the "census bureau". MSNBC has also been stating this but not identifying thier source.
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