View Poll Results: Should the media give equal coverage to the libertarian and green parties?

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Thread: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

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    Re: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That does not explain why the OP gives EQUAL importance to the Green and Libertarian Party to Republican and Democrat - BUT ZERO STATUS for the other 16 parties?

    Thus, I do NOT think this is about equality for 3rd parties. Rather, the OP favors the Green or Libertarian Party over the two major parties and wants the media to give artificially them equal status that voters do not. The OP is as much prejudiced against 3rd parties as possible by stating only 2 of the 18 on the ballot.
    Seeing how the media in general deliberately ignores 3rd parties the OP is probably only listing examples he knows of.
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    Re: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

    I think people put too much emphasis on the importance of media as opposed to the structural hurdles third parties have to overcome. For how little the Libertarian and Green parties have to spend they actually do quite well (well the Libertarian party does) in terms of media coverage and public awareness. The issue is that they have almost nothing to spend because they financially exhaust themselves trying to get ballot access and to defend their positions on said ballots. If you ask most serious third party candidates who have run for statewide offices they will cite this problem over media coverage every time.

    If ballot access were cheap, and easy to defend, third parties would have hundreds of thousands if not a million or two to kick around on actual campaign activities like cheap ad buys, hiring actual staffers and volunteers, setting up some offices, etc. It's not a ton, but it also creates a multiplier effect because these are the things you need to show if you want to convince more people to donate.

    Edit: I also don't think it is deliberate that the media 'ignores' third party candidates in that I do not believe it is some sort of conspiracy with the GOP and Democratic parties.

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    Re: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I think they should.

    And I think there should be at least one presidential debate where all the sane alternatives are there.

    Not even nessecarily because I'd support any of them.

    But because I think it's healthy in a democracy for people to hear all kinds of views rather than the two party dictatorship the USA has right now.

    I think it'd be a refreshing change from the Right - Left hamster wheel you guys are on.

    And I'd be willing to bet there's a good chance the GOP and DNC candidates wouldn't show up.
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    Re: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That does not explain why the OP gives EQUAL importance to the Green and Libertarian Party to Republican and Democrat - BUT ZERO STATUS for the other 16 parties?

    Thus, I do NOT think this is about equality for 3rd parties. Rather, the OP favors the Green or Libertarian Party over the two major parties and wants the media to give artificially them equal status that voters do not. The OP is as much prejudiced against 3rd parties as possible by stating only 2 of the 18 on the ballot.

    At some point, IMHO we need to be realists. On one hand the GOP and the DNC do have a monopoly on American politics and I think enforced by the media. On the other hand I think we need to honestly ask ourselves who has or would have some legitimate support if given acknowledgement and discussion of their positions by the media. I think the Libertarian Party is at the head of the line in that regard. However, I do understand most Libertarians and those who knowingly or unknowingly hold Libertarian values vote Republican at present. In order to offer fairness and balance, the Green Party could offer a left counterpart to what would likely result in the siphoning off of GOP votes, if the Libertarians were the only additional parties given coverage by the media.

    Here's an idea: Suppose Obama gets re-elected and I think he will and America starts to shift more and more toward the democrats and I also think that is very likely in coming years. Fox News decides they can make the GOP viable two ways. 1). Win the hearts and minds of people in support of the Republican Party, which is their present MO. 2). Divide the Democrats by giving the Green Party their own show on the weekends. The goal isn't to actually advance Green policies but to split the democrats. Then MSNBC counters by giving the Libertarians their own weekend show to divide the GOP. Likewise, the goal isn't to advance Libertarianism but to split the GOP on election day. The net result, both see some success and we start seeing both Green and Libertarian candidates win elections in city councils, school boards, state legislatures and even some congressional seats, the genesis of a true multi-party political culture in America.
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    Re: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I would even say a one party monopoly with the liberal media slobbering all over the DNC.
    That's not true at all. There're plenty of conservative media sources. FOX, CNN, heck even NPR's been bringing in conservative academics to discuss the election.

    And furthermore, are you implying that the media is liberal? Or that liberal media covers the DNC too much?

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    Re: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

    Should they do it? Yes. Should they be required to do it? No.


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    Re: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    That's not true at all. There're plenty of conservative media sources. FOX, CNN, heck even NPR's been bringing in conservative academics to discuss the election.
    That's not true at all. Fox is mostly Centrist (One could argue that Hannity & O'Reilly might tip the network slightly Right). I would say CNN is Left of Center, and NPR is firmly entrenched in the Left.

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    Re: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    That's not true at all. Fox is mostly Centrist (One could argue that Hannity & O'Reilly might tip the network slightly Right). I would say CNN is Left of Center, and NPR is firmly entrenched in the Left.
    I completely disagree.

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    Re: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    I completely disagree.
    That goes without saying.

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    Re: Should media give equal coverage to the Green and Libertarian Parties?

    Yes we need a real party that represents US CITIZENS.

    One is only for foreign criminals
    The other is only for foreign corporations.

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