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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Thank you for pointing out the insanely obvious.
    sometimes I feel like thats all we can do on this site lol
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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Do they need to respond to everything?
    No, but I'd think they'd want to respond if they actually stand for what they say they do. I'd think they'd very passionately want to respond to a man making unapologetic, blatantly sexist statements and actually building and presenting a case for why one gender might justifiably be denied the right to vote.

    Isn't that exactly what the twit in the OP did? Isn't that exactly the type of thing feminists are supposed to be offended by and respond strongly against?

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    No, but I'd think they'd want to respond if they actually stand for what they say they do. I'd think they'd very passionately want to respond to a man making unapologetic, blatantly sexist statements and actually building and presenting a case for why one gender might justifiably be denied the right to vote.

    Isn't that exactly what the twit in the OP did? Isn't that exactly the type of thing feminists are supposed to be offended by and respond strongly against?
    Has it occurred to your blatant attempts at being inflammatory might be disinclining people to get involved with this?

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    No, but I'd think they'd want to respond if they actually stand for what they say they do. I'd think they'd very passionately want to respond to a man making unapologetic, blatantly sexist statements and actually [i]building and presenting a case for why one gender might justifiably be denied the right to vote[i].

    Isn't that exactly what the twit in the OP did? Isn't that exactly the type of thing feminists are supposed to be offended by and respond strongly against?
    I've seen the same posters do what you ask in other threads, and I have abstained in those particular threads. In some threads I participate in one discourse that I did not in another thread, and do that on a whim. The same goes for others. Besides us two have responded at length. Maybe the other posters had similar thoughts to us and thought better of repeating them.
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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Has it occurred to your blatant attempts at being inflammatory might be disinclining people to get involved with this?
    No. None of that changes what the guy said. Does what he said not offend you as a feminist?

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    No. None of that changes what the guy said. Does what he said not offend you as a feminist?
    Sure, but I refer you to Fiddy's wise words.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I've seen the same posters do what you ask in other threads, and I have abstained in those particular threads. In some threads I participate in one discourse that I did not in another thread, and do that on a whim. The same goes for others. Besides us two have responded at length. Maybe the other posters had similar thoughts to us and thought better of repeating them.
    And my internal obstinacy also is inclined to just let you bloviate over it.

    Here's the question: Why is it not enough that you're doing it? Why do you need an echo chamber of people with different genitals? What if I, or other feminists, have nothing to add to what you've already said?

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    No, no, no. Not THE first post. Pter King's first post.
    Oh jesh Nitro - you can't do that to a woman late in the evening . . . my my I do declare. LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    No, but I'd think they'd want to respond if they actually stand for what they say they do. I'd think they'd very passionately want to respond to a man making unapologetic, blatantly sexist statements and actually building and presenting a case for why one gender might justifiably be denied the right to vote.

    Isn't that exactly what the twit in the OP did? Isn't that exactly the type of thing feminists are supposed to be offended by and respond strongly against?
    You know why - because on this particular forum we have a good hefty handful. There have been at least 7 over the years that I can think of who were quite obnoxious about it to an extreme. They're all the same. They say the same things, they have the same silly reasoning and primitive ego-boosting concepts - and when you've said it about 100 times you've said it all.

    What they want is attention. They're like little children feeling deprived. They are all the same - we've engaged with them plenty. They're sexist, they have various opinions, and they voice them knowing and wanting a response - so they can continue with their opinions and retorts and spewing their blind crap endlessly to the beat of their own drum.

    Why should we cater to their attention needs and self serving desires? It's obvious they do it to gain some sense of popularity or what have you - they love being able to control others and piss people off from a distance.

    The douches and the dicks won't be changing their boisterous views after an argument with any of us - or a deep, heated, serious debate. Because we've done it all. We've done it enough to know that's exactly the case.

    They want the attention - attention denied. They want people to expend the effort - effort unexpended. They want to dominate the subject - domination denied. Their views mean *that little* to me. I won't kowtow and give them all that attention they crave - through the vise of the internet no less - they won't be guiding my day. They aren't worth the gum on my shoe.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Here's the question: Why is it not enough that you're doing it? Why do you need an echo chamber of people with different genitals? What if I, or other feminists, have nothing to add to what you've already said?
    Because the man is obviously a feminist himself, or at least considers himself one. He is never going to realize that his ugly views about men are (supposedly) unacceptable for a feminist unless feminists, and women in general, tell him so. In droves. It's not going to matter to him coming from me, clearly.

    And I harp on the feminists about it because I hold a strong suspicion that those types of views and that type of rhetoric regarding men are generally acceptable among many feminists, and I am hoping that some feminists will come along and prove me wrong. So far, none have. None have condemned it. Women have even liked his posts along the way. This is very disturbing to me. It strengthens the notion that feminists are not really anti-sexism, anti-discrimination, anti-gender stereotyping, and pro-equality as they claim... but rather pro-woman and anti-man.

    All I want is some indication that that's not true.
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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    Because the man is obviously a feminist himself, or at least considers himself one. He is never going to realize that his ugly views about men are (supposedly) unacceptable for a feminist unless feminists, and women in general, tell him so. In droves. It's not going to matter to him coming from me, clearly.

    And I harp on the feminists about it because I hold a strong suspicion that those types of views and that type of rhetoric regarding men are generally acceptable among many feminists, and I am hoping that some feminists will come along and prove me wrong. So far, none have. None have condemned it. Women have even liked his posts along the way. This is very disturbing to me. It strengthens the notion that feminists are not really anti-sexism, anti-discrimination, anti-gender stereotyping, and pro-equality as they claim... but rather pro-woman and anti-man.

    All I want is some indication that that's not true.
    You're trying to whip up a gender war. We don't wanna play. Simple as that.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    Because the man is obviously a feminist himself. He is never going to realize that his ugly views about men are (supposedly) unacceptable for a feminist unless feminists, and women in general, tell him so. In droves. It's not going to matter to him coming from me, clearly.

    And I harp on the feminists about it because I hold a strong suspicion that those types of views and that type of rhetoric regarding men are generally acceptable among many feminists, and I am hoping that some feminists will come along and prove me wrong. So far, none have. None have condemned it. Women have even liked his posts along the way. This is very disturbing to me. It strengthens the notion that feminists are not really anti-sexism, anti-discrimination, anti-gender stereotyping, and pro-equality as they claim... but rather pro-woman and anti-man.
    Yes, he is. Let's take another example.

    There are Christians who believe that Chris is love and that we have an obligation to our poor and weak.

    There are Christians who believe in vigilante justice and that sinners should be abandoned by society.

    They are both Christians.

    Likewise, there are feminists who believe in equality for women and feminists who believe in dominance for women. They're both feminists.

    Now, moving on.

    Why do you equate being a feminist with being a woman? If you believe women should be treated equally in society and afforded full rights as citizens, then you're a feminist regardless of what's between your legs. You sound like a feminist to me. The fact that you're a man doesn't matter. You're someone who believes in female equality, who is speaking out against a female dominance attitude held by another feminist (who is also a man).

    I am also not in the third grade, which means that I don't feel it necessary to form a dog pile in order to make a point. A point made is a point made. If you need "back up" to speak your mind, then you're looking at this wrong.

    I had nothing to add to your posts. They were perfectly succinct. So I liked them and moved on to the thread of conversation I was already engaged in. I don't feel obligated to repeat what you've already said because I have a vagina, as though it means something different when the speaker has a penis. It doesn't. It means the same thing.

    If someone likes your post and then doesn't make one of their own, that means you've covered the bases and they have nothing to add. Stop seeing feminazi boogie women where they don't exist.

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