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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I do believe you have your facts wrong, ab9926. Few people of either gender suicide because they're getting divorced, although this is a painful time for almost everyone.

    Did you know that after a divorce, a man with child support obligations is better off, financially (on average) than he was whilst married, while his former wife and their kids (on average) slide down in economic standing, many into poverty?
    One of my American teachers was going through a divorce lately. He was angry that 50 % of his earnings went into the child support of his 2 children. Apparently it is like you pay a ~25 % regular income tax before child support, then child supports takes another 25 %, resulting in the total 50 % income loss. I think that a man should love his children regardless of marital status, but living on half your income can be easily crippling I guess, especially if the man must move cities as usual in today's volatile job market. Does the woman's income drop 50 % too? I don't understand your point fully, I'm afraid.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    They don't campaign on being anti-woman. They campaign on other things, but they know that men are more likely to overlook anti-woman stances because they aren't women.

    Some men don't believe that. Some men believe society is worse when women participate. So do a few women. And they are overwhelmingly conservative.
    This really really really amazes me. A part of America I never knew. A place where men control feelings. Unimaginable and bizarre. Even in the most patriarchal families of French mountain villages, nobody is happy unless the wife is happy. This is natural biology. Cutting down on a woman's opportunity in any kind of choice does not transfer control from the woman to the man, it just takes away from the unity of them. Even Thomas Jefferson knew that. Wow ... America slipping away from its foundations. Men do overlook, yes, but for the ones that believe what you are saying, compared to generic political trends in the USA, how popular is their bias?

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    The Religous Right -- that never-ending fun palace for hate of all kinds.
    Hmmm ... now that you are mentioning, I think I know who they are. Considering that I am a Christian myself (even though they don't agree with me fully on this), I think they really do depart from common sense.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Yup. It's for the family -- except that in their vision of a "family", most of us are second class citizens.
    Yes, and that IS scary. Once I visited one and he beat up one of his children right in front of me, the visitor. How do you even survive such a crowd. (HAHAHA)

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    This really really really amazes me. A part of America I never knew. A place where men control feelings. Unimaginable and bizarre. Even in the most patriarchal families of French mountain villages, nobody is happy unless the wife is happy. This is natural biology. Cutting down on a woman's opportunity in any kind of choice does not transfer control from the woman to the man, it just takes away from the unity of them. Even Thomas Jefferson knew that. Wow ... America slipping away from its foundations. Men do overlook, yes, but for the ones that believe what you are saying, compared to generic political trends in the USA, how popular is their bias?
    Popular enough that many of them get into office. These aren't just wacky candidates that crop up and then get dismissed. Some of them get elected.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    Hmmm ... now that you are mentioning, I think I know who they are. Considering that I am a Christian myself (even though they don't agree with me fully on this), I think they really do depart from common sense.
    IMO, the Jerry Falwells and Anita Bryants of this world are not motivated by religion -- they are motivated by a lust for power. I don't expect real christians to apologize to me for them anymore than I would expect them to apologize for the Westboro Baptist Church.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Popular enough that many of them get into office. These aren't just wacky candidates that crop up and then get dismissed. Some of them get elected.
    We'll never be entirely free of the haters -- they'll reemerge every time the country is made anxious over war or the economy.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    I guess four people on this forum still live in the 1910's

    I know Tigger is one of them, hahaha

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Popular enough that many of them get into office. These aren't just wacky candidates that crop up and then get dismissed. Some of them get elected.
    *sigh* I really like that country though.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    IMO, the Jerry Falwells and Anita Bryants of this world are not motivated by religion -- they are motivated by a lust for power. I don't expect real christians to apologize to me for them anymore than I would expect them to apologize for the Westboro Baptist Church.
    Hmmm this is logical. I bet you are right.

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