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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    No, but I'm just pointing out that when you're giving your opinion about the way people feel, it helps if people actually do feel that way.
    And they do.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    sorry I dont follow you will have to elaborate.
    Your post #101 was responding to my post #64 which was only trying to property state the purpose of my mentioning military service to someone who clearly didn't understand and was going off in a direction I never intended.

    You have no reason to assume I argue that military service is the only way to attain national identity or comradery.

    Mandatory service is a meta-solution to several problems, most of which have absolutely nothing to do with women or voting. Mandatory service makes TriCare available, thus helping the healthcare issue. Mandatory service ensures highschool/GED completion (because the military will literally march you to class and hold you there until you pass), which in turn makes the individual statistically more likely to have a productive career, and less likely to commit a major crime. Mandatory service means guaranteed training in a profession, and unlocks funding for higher education which doesn't have to be connected with the service.

    There are other reasons as well, but again they have nothing to do with voting, women, or even national identity.

    Just because I show support for one of many ways does not mean I denounce all other ways. You had to assume my list was exclusive, exhaustive and complete in order for that question to occur to you.

    Please, add to the list if you like.
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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    She goes on to say every person should vote and be informed.
    She's pro felon voting rights?

    Everyone has the right to vote now that's 18 or over (who is) a legal citizen, and every person that's 18 and over and a legal citizen should be active in local politics so they can make a change locally, make a change on the state level and make a change in Washington, D.C.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    And they do.
    Apparently not, Jerry. But I don't expect you to come back with any actual reasoning.

    Now, are you going to address your statement that women are either married or on welfare, despite all the evidence that women are working and making more than ever?

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You have no reason to assume I argue that military service is the only way to attain national identity or comradery.

    Just because I show support for one of many ways does not mean I denounce all other ways. You had to assume my list was exclude, exhaustive and complete in order for that question to occur to you.

    Please, add tot he list if you like.
    "One should also be a gun owner and have served a term of service in the military before being allowed to vote"

    dont know how more exclusive you can get?
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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Apparently not, Jerry. But I don't expect you to come back with any actual reasoning.

    Now, are you going to address your statement that women are either married or on welfare, despite all the evidence that women are working and making more than ever?
    I would like to point out that although women should still vote even if they are on welfare/married, women do have more options now than men do in life. Women CAN choose to be housewives instead of working, but no man would want to choose to be a househusband. Women's usual "you-missed-a-spot-again" and "why-shall-I-support-a-grown-man" puts a natural sexist divide between women and men. Consequently, women's voting patterns will always be characteristically different, and women votes will always hurt conservative values consistently, a reasonably unwelcome bias.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    I would like to point out that although women should still vote even if they are on welfare/married, women do have more options now than men do in life. Women CAN choose to be housewives instead of working, but no man would want to choose to be a househusband. Women's usual "you-missed-a-spot-again" and "why-shall-I-support-a-grown-man" puts a natural sexist divide between women and men. Consequently, women's voting patterns will always be characteristically different, and women votes will always hurt conservative values consistently, a reasonably unwelcome bias.
    What you mean by options is societal expectations rather than all that many legal restrictions. Stay-at-home men are becoming more accepted, albeit, it is far from common. I have come to accept that my own desires are to become a professional out in the public world, but I have also come to the conclusion I would likewise want the same in my partner. I'm too wedded to academics, advocacy, and politics to not want that for either of us.
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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    I would like to point out that although women should still vote even if they are on welfare/married, women do have more options now than men do in life. Women CAN choose to be housewives instead of working, but no man would want to choose to be a househusband. Women's usual "you-missed-a-spot-again" and "why-shall-I-support-a-grown-man" puts a natural sexist divide between women and men. Consequently, women's voting patterns will always be characteristically different, and women votes will always hurt conservative values consistently, a reasonably unwelcome bias.
    I wish that no men wished to have a woman support them, but it's not true. I know a couple of emo guys who want exactly this. Of course, I wouldn't describe them as men as in "real men," but they are male.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    "One should also be a gun owner and have served a term of service in the military before being allowed to vote"

    dont know how more exclusive you can get?
    That doesn't mean military service is the only way to foster national identity, which was your claim. It only means that of all those other ways, military service is the only one I argue should be mandatory.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    I would like to point out that although women should still vote even if they are on welfare/married, women do have more options now than men do in life. Women CAN choose to be housewives instead of working, but no man would want to choose to be a househusband. Women's usual "you-missed-a-spot-again" and "why-shall-I-support-a-grown-man" puts a natural sexist divide between women and men. Consequently, women's voting patterns will always be characteristically different, and women votes will always hurt conservative values consistently, a reasonably unwelcome bias.
    Absolutely untrue. There are literally tens of thousands of "househusbands" in the US, who have chosen to take primary responsibility for raising children because their wives have more lucrative careers, and the husbands prefer spending quality time raising the children. There is only a "sexist divide" between those who are looking for reasons to pigeonhole females into the "housewife/raise children" role and pigeonhole men into the "monetary support/career" role.

    The statement that "women votes will always hurt conservative values consistently, a reasonably unwelcome bias" is also demonstrably false and demonstrably an unwelcome bias that cannot be supported by verifiable fact.

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