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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Military service has to do with social cohesion and national identity, not political IQ.
    and you cant obtain those from any walk of life? I would argue that my friends have a much better understanding of social cohesion than I do, I left the army nearly 3 years ago and im still struggling to find my place in society.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    No, but I'd think they'd want to respond if they actually stand for what they say they do. I'd think they'd very passionately want to respond to a man making unapologetic, blatantly sexist statements and actually building and presenting a case for why one gender might justifiably be denied the right to vote.

    Isn't that exactly what the twit in the OP did? Isn't that exactly the type of thing feminists are supposed to be offended by and respond strongly against?
    I am a feminist. I didn't click on this thread for a long time because the the question is just so boring to me. I mean, I remember Phyllis Schlafly and Marabel Morgan too.

    This Lane woman reminds me of my former mother-in-law, the mother of five sons. Hates women. Distrusts them. Despises her children's life-partners and isn't too crazy about her granddaughters either.

    Nothing you can do about pathetic knuckledraggers except pity them...and laugh. No need to defend that which requires no defense.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    So:
    • Married = a committed human relationship over a government hand-out.
    • Military = shared social identity through common hardship and experience.
    • Gun-owner = will use reason over force, communicating a common ground and compromise over enacting a law.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    So you're not in favor of individuality and freedom, then.
    Quite the radical opposite, as evidenced by everything I've said.

    I belong to the gun-owner group, which means I'm not going to reach out and force you to do this or that, I'm going to step back and allow you the freedom to choose whichever you want for yourself.

    Yes, I have opinions, and yes I would like everyone to agree with me, but I'm not going to convince you against your will. I will try to convince you through reason, using my words, not a weapon.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Jerry - it wouldn't be that someone 'chooses not to belong' - it's that they 'chose to belong to another group'
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
    Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    and you cant obtain those from any walk of life?
    Every statement someone makes is mutually exclusive?

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So:
    [LIST][*]Married = a committed human relationship over a government hand-out.
    Since when are those the only two options?

    You've yet to explain that. And as I said, single women these days are actually very independent and well-employed, myself included.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Every statement someone makes is mutually exclusive?
    sorry I dont follow you will have to elaborate.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Quite the radical opposite, as evidenced by everything I've said.

    I belong to the gun-owner group, which means I'm not going to reach out and force you to do this or that, I'm going to step back and allow you the freedom to choose whichever you want for yourself.

    Yes, I have opinions, and yes I would like everyone to agree with me, but I'm not going to convince you against your will. I will try to convince you through reason, using my words, not a weapon.
    So would I, as a never-gun owner so far in my life. And incidentally, not everyone in the military feels it fosters cohesion and shared experience. Some feel the opposite. Your view isn't shared even by other people of similar experience.

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    Re: Women voting, bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Jerry - it wouldn't be that someone 'chooses not to belong' - it's that they 'chose to belong to another group'
    And I'm not going to stop them. I'm going to let them belong to either group they proffer. I have an opinion and I would like them to agree, but in the end I'm not going to force them either way.

    If they choose not to own a gun, that's fine, but that's an unhealthy state of mind which shouldn't have any ability to influence public policy. Refusing to own a gun is refusing to take personal responsibility, and such a person should not have any level of power over others.

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