• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Who won the VP Debate?

Who won?


  • Total voters
    109

Your Star

Rage More!
DP Veteran
Joined
May 15, 2010
Messages
27,381
Reaction score
20,154
Location
Georgia
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Socialist
So who do you think won the debate?
 
Should be a neither option. I think it was a draw.
 
It was close. I think it is debatable either way, so I can't call a winner.

but meh, I liked Paul Ryan's performance better... Biden looked like he was trying to audition for a high school play.
 
Last edited:
I think it was even in terms of points, Ryan looked more professional. I think what helped Biden the most was after the napalming Obama took Biden didn't get destroyed. Ryan's biggest failings was not really hammering Biden's really dumb comments such as the most serious sanctions and the Libyan knowledge thing
 
Vice Presidential debates can be a deal breaker for a rising star in either party in terms of their own career. That did not happen tonight.

Biden won this one clearly on facts, leadership and confidence.

Neither screwed up enough to cause the loss of their running mate imo and that is what they want to avoid. VP debates do not win elections yet they can harm the VP's career within their own party.

I loved it when Biden called out Ryan on the "death panel" Sarah Palinesque weak attempt to deflect the medicare discussion. Obama should have smacked Romney down on that bit of lying BS and other deceptions. Romney tried the same tactic and that is a complete distortion of reality.

Biden was not only calm and stayed on facts ... he was badass!
 
Last edited:
I won't say Ryan won, but I was more impressed with Ryan's performance, minus moments in the foreign affairs discussions. Both candidates came out ahead.
 
Vice Presidential debates can be a deal breaker for a rising star in either party in terms of their own career. That did not happen tonight.

Biden won this one clearly on facts, leadership and confidence.

Neither screwed up enough to cause the loss of their running mate imo and that is what they want to avoid. VP debates do not win elections yet they can harm the VP's career within their own party.

I loved it when Biden called out Ryan on the "death panel" Sarah Palinesque weak attempt to deflect the medicare discussion. Obama should have smacked Romney down on that bit of lying BS and other deceptions. Romney tried the same tactic that is a complete distortion of reality.

Biden was not only calm and stayed on facts ... he was badass!

Ryan came off more professional. substance wise it was about even
 
Biden clearly won. Not because he was on the attack, but because he answered the questions he was asked. Ryan seemed to keep taking a side step and saying what Obama hasn't done instead of saying what Romney would do. It was so bad that the moderator has to ask him to answer a question. Even then, Ryan still side stepped. They are going to re-air the debate in a few minutes on C-SPAN. Re-watch and take notes.
 
So who do you think won the debate?

I think Biden probably took it.

I wonder, though, how many were turned off by his constant condescending smiling at Ryan. I find that disrespectful.
 
This poll is flawed. There is no choice for draw.

substance yes, Ryan's main failure was not really stomping Biden when Biden said BS

Substance-Ryan won
 
Ryan. He was professional and offered more figures and details on his plan. On the other hand Biden offered his smirk, mindless rhetoric, interruptions, less figures, and no plan at all. Also, on a few occasions ended up debating the moderator when he was in fact wrong or caught lying. D:

Also, I love he kept bringing up how he cared for poor people when the fact is he gave less than a thousand to the poor last year. Caring....by not helping. :D
 
Vice Presidential debates can be a deal breaker for a rising star in either party in terms of their own career. That did not happen tonight.

Biden won this one clearly on facts, leadership and confidence.

Neither screwed up enough to cause the loss of their running mate imo and that is what they want to avoid. VP debates do not win elections yet they can harm the VP's career within their own party.

I loved it when Biden called out Ryan on the "death panel" Sarah Palinesque weak attempt to deflect the medicare discussion. Obama should have smacked Romney down on that bit of lying BS and other deceptions. Romney tried the same tactic that is a complete distortion of reality.

Biden was not only calm and stayed on facts ... he was badass!
Ryan won on simple courtesy alone. Biden needed a muzzle and a leash.
 
Oh and people capital gains is NOT a loophole! Jesus ****ing Christ..

And people Ryan never said there was going to be a "death" panel. He said that there will be a panel of 15 people that don't even need medical expertise. That is factual. Dion that was to you. Biden turned that comment into the death panel comment all on his little own.
 
Last edited:
Biden won on my two main criteria: substance and appearance.

Ryan was slightly below Biden on appearance because I appreciated his calm demeanor, but it was too weak.
Ryan was way below Biden on substance. There was nothing but "we're different Obama there" which doesn't work when you don't have the aggressiveness to go with it.
 
Anyone who thinks that Ryan came even close to winning that debate is in complete denial.

As we sometimes say down here in the South, that was a thumpin.'

Now...when do we get to see the Biden-vs.-Romney debate? :D
 
Are (some) of you people serious? Romney comes out aggressive and everyone gives him the auto win. Biden comes out as aggressive and he's being a jerk and Ryan's "professional"? LOL, give me a break.
 
Are (some) of you people serious? Romney comes out aggressive and everyone gives him the auto win. Biden comes out as aggressive and he's being a jerk and Ryan's "professional"? LOL, give me a break.

I think Romney's style of aggressiveness is qualitatively different from Biden's, however. Biden's is much more irritated, which can have drawbacks as a result. Nevertheless, there was a significant portion of those moments where that exact method accomplished what he needed it to: demonstrate the perception that Ryan was either naive, off the mark, or whatever else. Other times it did not serve him well in that debate.
 
Are (some) of you people serious? Romney comes out aggressive and everyone gives him the auto win. Biden comes out as aggressive and he's being a jerk and Ryan's "professional"? LOL, give me a break.

I don't remember Romney acting anything like Biden. Bidens performance reminds of Gore all those years ago when all he did was sigh every time Bush spoke. There is a difference between acting aggressively and acting like a childish jerk that needs a punch in the face.
 
Let's see... for the most part the liberals say Biden won and the conservatives say Ryan won. I'm shocked... shocked, I tell you.
 
Anyone who thinks that Ryan came even close to winning that debate is in complete denial.

As we sometimes say down here in the South, that was a thumpin.'

Now...when do we get to see the Biden-vs.-Romney debate? :D

In all fairness, your posts on this issue are perhaps the most hackish I have seen

you are posting on what you wanted to happen, reality be damned
 
I think Romney's style of aggressiveness is qualitatively different from Biden's, however. Biden's is much more irritated, which can have drawbacks as a result. Nevertheless, there was a significant portion of those moments where that exact method accomplished what he needed it to: demonstrate the perception that Ryan was either naive, off the mark, or whatever else. Other times it did not serve him well in that debate.
I agree a lot of that. It was clear from the start that part of Biden's strategy was to make Ryan look like a naive boy. His laughter and interruption did that. He could have backed off a bit more since he had pretty much already made his point about that early on.

However, I don't think Biden's style is irritated so much as the context of the aggression was different. Romney was being aggressive towards a President and Biden was being aggressive towards a young candidate. From my point of view, that context has determined people's perception of Biden more than Biden's actual behavior. Romney's comes across as less threatening and Biden's as more so because of that context.
 
I don't remember Romney acting anything like Biden. Bidens performance reminds of Gore all those years ago when all he did was sigh every time Bush spoke. There is a difference between acting aggressively and acting like a childish jerk that needs a punch in the face.
The difference depends on which side your on and how honest you are about your bias.
 
Back
Top Bottom