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Thread: Who won the VP Debate?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I dont think I would label it ignorance. I am no fan of Biden, but I thought in certain regards, he did quite well. He was well rehearsed, well informed, he knew his positions and the positions of his opponent, and he stated those positions clearly, and forcefully. Bidens problem was his demeanor. Mocking Ryan by smiling, laughing, interrupting and rolling his eyes while Ryan spoke was juvenile, distracting and rude. Had he done this on only a handfull of occasions it might have even worked to his advantage. But Biden did it over and over and over. He did it so often, in fact, that his poor behavior became the most significant story of the entire debate. Substance-wise, it was a good debate. Stylistically, Biden came off as childish and arrogant, while Ryan came across as competant and mature. That makes Ryan the winner.
    What I was getting at was that much of the information what Biden presented was untrue or exaggerated, and the ignorant voter, people who don't know the real facts, would say that Biden was the winner. He was very strong in his arguments and commanded the discussion, but untrue information and his demeanor above all else are what lost him the debate.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I think Gore was initially listed as the 'winner' of the debate with BUsh, but history has painted a different outcome. Same thing will happen to Biden.
    Ah, another, "just you wait and see," response. I see those all the time from people who can't find a winning position. Hell, I'm still waiting for stockpiles of WMD to be found in Iraq as I recall many Conservatives saying, "just wait and see, they'll be found."

    Thanks, but I go by what exists; not by what may exist someday.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    A bump the days after vs a consistent gap or gain are two different things, besides that Bush won Ohio with nearly as small of margin in polling days prior to 2004 election.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    I only saw Ryan debating.

    Biden acted like an obnoxious bar fly.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by CedarBear View Post
    I only saw Ryan debating.

    Biden acted like an obnoxious bar fly.
    And yet when Romney did the EXACT SAME THING.. he wasn't?
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by WcBeasley View Post
    And yet when Romney did the EXACT SAME THING.. he wasn't?
    No, actually he didn't. He wasn't laughing and smirking at everything Obama said. Interrupted, yes, but that's because Obama was misrepresenting Romney's plan.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by WcBeasley View Post
    And yet when Romney did the EXACT SAME THING.. he wasn't?

    Romney EARNED that crushing win.

    And Romney doesn't drink.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by CedarBear View Post
    Romney EARNED that crushing win.

    And Romney doesn't drink.
    No Romney doesn't drink but then He LIES so much I doubt if even Ann knows who the real Mitt Romney is.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    "Liar, liar, pants on fire." just might cost Obama the election.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by WcBeasley View Post
    No Romney doesn't drink but then He LIES so much I doubt if even Ann knows who the real Mitt Romney is.
    Please, enlighten me. What is it that you think Romney lied about? A majority of the facts he mentioned during his debate can be verified on the BLS.
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