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Thread: Who won the VP Debate?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I thoroughly disagree. What kind of sane individual pushing 70 regards "clownishness," much less going "overboard" with it, as an appropriate demeanor?

    A Republican said to me this morning that she was disappointed that Ryan didn't "take it" to Biden. That's not how I see it at all. I think Ryan realized--I certainly did--that he was going to be continually interrupted.

    Ryan was prepared and dignified. He looked Presidential to me.

    He didn't act the fool. Biden did with all his eye-rolling and smirking. I've never seen such a performance. Clownishness during a national debate?
    It would have been so easy to take command of that stage without having to act the fool, without having to raise your voice, and without having to display emotions. Ryan didn't do it, and that's why it was even close. It was right there for the taking and Ryan failed to grab it, IMO.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think most people saw it as two dems vs one Republican and it was a draw. that's pretty good
    Shouldn't you be in the Conspiracy forum?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Ryan was prepared and dignified. He looked Presidential to me.
    Oh, come on. Just like Obama looked unprepared and annoyed during the first debate, Ryan looked the same during this one. Ryan also looked a little boy. As Bill Maher (who I hate 99% of the time) said, "Call 911, there's an old man beating up a small boy on CNN." To say that he looked presidential is, in my opinion, a misunderstanding of what it means to be the President. That's not to say that Biden behaved like a President, either, keep in mind.

    Another point is that there were plenty of liberals calling Romney a "bully" and "rude" during the first debate just as there are plenty calling Biden "rude" and a "clown" now. In both of those cases, the critics miss the point that part of being in a debate is being dominant even if people think that your dominance crosses whatever artificial line they have drawn. That said, I don't think that a debate should be only about looks. It should be about a combination of appearance and substance. However, faulting any candidate for being dominant misunderstands debate like this and it misunderstands what is at stake in any election.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It would have been so easy to take command of that stage without having to act the fool, without having to raise your voice, and without having to display emotions. Ryan didn't do it, and that's why it was even close. It was right there for the taking and Ryan failed to grab it, IMO.
    That's just it. HHe didn't take the bait. He did take command just by sitting there and being the grownup at the table.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you mean because the two democrats kept interrupting him?

    the biggest loophole is half the country being able to engage in voting to jack up taxes they do not pay
    Lame excuse is lame. So only the wealthy should vote on taxes? I see that working out.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Biden... There is no doubt in my mind that Biden won.


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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you mean because the two democrats kept interrupting him?

    the biggest loophole is half the country being able to engage in voting to jack up taxes they do not pay
    I find it absolutely hilarious how the "personal responsibility" right is blaming Ryan's failures on Biden and the moderator. This is why I don't ever buy the personal responsibility talking point that comes from the right because they only ever apply it to other people - never themselves. Wait, I take that back, they apply it to themselves when they succeed, but never when they fail. In that case, everyone else is to blame.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    That's just it. HHe didn't take the bait. He did take command just by sitting there and being the grownup at the table.
    Simply being the grownup at the table is not taking command, especially when the children at the table are going ape**** having a food fight.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you mean because the two democrats kept interrupting him?

    the biggest loophole is half the country being able to engage in voting to jack up taxes they do not pay
    So you buy in to the 'makers and takers' rhetoric?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krystov View Post
    Regardless of who won the debate, I don't condone the behavior put on display by Joe Biden last night. He CLEARLY showed disdain and held a Holier than Thou attitude throughout the debate. As I said before, this is unbecoming of both a politician and a person.
    It makes him look good to the blue collar base he has to win votes from. And that's all that matters.

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