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Thread: Who won the VP Debate?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Never in the history of the President and VP debates has there been one remotely close to this level of disrespect and buffoonery. Joe will reap what he sows, but he is way out there now, and will have to own this.
    That's just not true. I've seen my fair share of them and VP candidates are often cartoonish. Guess you never caught Stockdale doing his thing.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Ryan won hearts? That guy was a moron of the highest level. Not that Biden was any better. Ryan could only say the same damned thing over and over and over again. The only thing these two did was bicker back and forth like jr. high idiots. The both of them.
    You are welcome to your opinion, but it sure is not the prevailing one.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That's just not true. I've seen my fair share of them and VP candidates are often cartoonish. Guess you never caught Stockdale doing his thing.
    Its not about "cartoon'ish". Its about arrogance and disrepect. Never like this. You cannot find a credible pundit on either side that will endorse your view. Menawhile, Biden is being criticized by at least a few high-placed liberals talking heads.

    Pierce Morgan.
    David Gregory.

    To name two. Those are not GOP pundits.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    If we look at the debate in a vacuum, devoid of any overall context, I'd say Biden won it by a very slim margin. But when you add in the context of how Biden has been portrayed as a doddering befuddled old moron by those on the right, Ryan ends up being the guy who got beat ever so slightly by a doddering befuddled old moron. Anybody who gets beat by a doddering befuddled moron must be really ****ing stupid. Even a slight loss looks horrible in that context, IMO.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    I actually didn't watch the debates because I went to the Western Kentucky-Troy game, and I could only record one program at a time. A's and Tigers took precedence over the veep debates.

    This thread makes me actually wanna look up a way to see the debate in its entirety. I went into yesterday thinking that the only way Biden could lose this debate is to piss his pants or repeatedly drop the F bomb or something. I'm seeing a lot of backup for Ryan here, and I'm hella curious now.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If we look at the debate in a vacuum, devoid of any overall context, I'd say Biden won it by a very slim margin. But when you add in the context of how Biden has been portrayed as a doddering befuddled old moron by those on the right, Ryan ends up being the guy who got beat ever so slightly by a doddering befuddled old moron. Anybody who gets beat by a doddering befuddled moron must be really ****ing stupid. Even a slight loss looks horrible in that context, IMO.
    If you look at it from the context of Ryan being a young and incredibly unexperienced debator, Ryan held his ground well, thus victory to him.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I've never made any comments about who's being "normal" or "strange," so what are you talking about?
    You appear to be agreeing with a couple others in this thread saying Biden was not being rude, or that Romney was just as bad (and thus theres a double standard). Theres no consensus as to either.

    Originally Posted by Paratrooper
    This is simply not true. I will not deny that I am biased, I believe the vast majority of this forum is, on the other hand look at the difference in how people are responding to this debate vs the other one. Its not just Republicans saying Biden came across as a jerk.

    Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive
    Right, it's anyone who has a double standard for Republicans and Democrats when it comes to aggressiveness. Democrats are notorious for looking weak and refraining from aggression in comparison to Republicans. As soon as a Democrat does get aggressive, he's all of a sudden "rude" and "disrespectful." Please.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    If you look at it from the context of Ryan being a young and incredibly unexperienced debator, Ryan held his ground well, thus victory to him.
    There's no excuse for losing to a doddering befuddled old moron in a debate. None.

    In this instance, "young and inexperienced debater" is simply a nice way of saying "incompetent 42 year old debater".
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If we look at the debate in a vacuum, devoid of any overall context, I'd say Biden won it by a very slim margin. But when you add in the context of how Biden has been portrayed as a doddering befuddled old moron by those on the right, Ryan ends up being the guy who got beat ever so slightly by a doddering befuddled old moron. Anybody who gets beat by a doddering befuddled moron must be really ****ing stupid. Even a slight loss looks horrible in that context, IMO.
    If I were to check my bias at the door and decide based solely on what they said I would say its was pretty even. Biden certainly did better than I expected. There were several times when I thought to myself, that was a good answer (not that I agreed with the answer but it was a good answer for his platform).

    Take out Biden's theatrics and Ryan's evasiveness on certain issues.

    Look at the issues where they actually had exchanges and you see that they both made some good points. Both stretched the truth (to me this is not at all surprising, politicians+stretching the truth has become a common joke in our culture)

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Its not about "cartoon'ish". Its about arrogance and disrepect. Never like this. You cannot find a credible pundit on either side that will endorse your view. Menawhile, Biden is being criticized by at least a few high-placed liberals talking heads.

    Pierce Morgan.
    David Gregory.

    To name two. Those are not GOP pundits.
    Cheney was criticized for the same thing by pundits on both sides of the fence, though he clearly won his debate. And really, using pundits as proof of anything besides pandering is absurd. Step away from the editorialists and make up your own mind.

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