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Thread: Who won the VP Debate?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Romney is already less "likeable" than the President in the mind of most Americans. Why do you think if he did as you say (act just like Biden did during this debate) get a free pass?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Listen to Louis Farrakan or Al Sharptones and Jesse Jackson Lately?
    What do they have to do with anything?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    Romney is already less "likeable" than the President in the mind of most Americans. Why do you think if he did as you say (act just like Biden did during this debate) get a free pass?
    I assume your talking to me.

    Like I said, there's a double standard for aggression. Republicans can be aggressive and Democrats can't. It's the narrative that people of all political background have bought into and one that has frustrated me since Kerry's weak performance. So Romney didn't get a "free pass" so much as his aggression fits in the narrative and Biden's doesn't.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    How do you explain the fact that youre nearly the only one saying Romneys behavior was anything but normal in the debate? While almost everyone is saying Bidens behavior was strange. Whats more likely? Youre biased? Or everyone else is biased?
    I've never made any comments about who's being "normal" or "strange," so what are you talking about?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I think the main goal for Biden in this debate was to please and in turn mobilize the base. From what I gather from liberals outside of the media, he did a good job of that because he said everything a lot of us feel and wanted Obama to communicate.
    Thats what all are saying the base of each is back to being energized. Nothing major to hit the polls with this Debate. Although CNN and ABC did report more undecideds not so happy with Biden's Behaviour. Minor shiznit anyways. If they worried about manners and behaviour.

    In the meantime what will affect the polls is more coming out on Libya. Which in this next Debate with Obama. Obama won't be able to politicize over any campaigning. Which I figure he will come out this time and Stare Romney in the eyes. Look at the TV land Audience and be more in control over his body language. Hard to criticize Romney when he has not dealt with nor led and all are looking only at Obama's Policies.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well given you liked the substance of a lefty like Biden, its a forgone conclusion whose substance you preferred
    Ryan couldn't answer one simple tax loophole question. So yea, I vote for substance.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    What do they have to do with anything?
    Well to be honest I was going to let you tell me their not politicans. Then I was going to come back and throw Alan Simpson and Clinton out there, since you had said this.....

    Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive
    Right, it's anyone who has a double standard for Republicans and Democrats when it comes to aggressiveness. Democrats are notorious for looking weak and refraining from aggression in comparison to Republicans. As soon as a Democrat does get aggressive, he's all of a sudden "rude" and "disrespectful." Please.....snip~

    Since when was Simpson and Clinton ever not aggressive?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Thats what all are saying the base of each is back to being energized. Nothing major to hit the polls with this Debate. Although CNN and ABC did report more undecideds not so happy with Biden's Behaviour. Minor shiznit anyways. If they worried about manners and behaviour.

    In the meantime what will affect the polls is more coming out on Libya. Which in this next Debate with Obama. Obama won't be able to politicize over any campaigning. Which I figure he will come out this time and Stare Romney in the eyes. Look at the TV land Audience and be more in control over his body language. Hard to criticize Romney when he has not dealt with nor led and all are looking only at Obama's Policies.
    Yeah, the VP debate rarely does much which is why I suspect Biden's aim was to get people who want to vote for Obama more excited.

    And I agree with you about how Obama will be in the next debate. He will be more aggressive although less than Biden was and more aware of himself. Romney will probably just do what he did last time since that worked for him. (If ain't broke, don't fix it.)

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well to be honest I was going to let you tell me their not politicans. Then I was going to come back and throw Alan Simpson and Clinton out there, since you had said this.....

    Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive
    Right, it's anyone who has a double standard for Republicans and Democrats when it comes to aggressiveness. Democrats are notorious for looking weak and refraining from aggression in comparison to Republicans. As soon as a Democrat does get aggressive, he's all of a sudden "rude" and "disrespectful." Please.....snip~

    Since when was Simpson and Clinton ever not aggressive?
    Haha, I like your honesty.

    And, to be honest, I knew that someone was going to come back at me with Clinton - not so much Simpson. But sure, there have been Democrats who have been aggressive, but for the most part, Democrats are pansies. They sit back and take it. Kerry did it. Gore did it to an extent. Obama did it. Even Biden did it when he debated Palin. And so on. The aggressive Democrats are MUCH rarer than aggressive Republicans.

    But, if I recall correctly, people have criticized Clinton for being "too" aggressive as well which is why he's known as an arrogant jerk, particularly by many on the right so my point holds for him as well.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Like I said, there's a double standard for aggression. Republicans can be aggressive and Democrats can't.
    You're out of your mind. Democrats have "free pass" stamped on their foreheads.

    And your Romney / Biden comparison is way off. Romney was assertive, but respectful. Biden was condescending and border line rabid.

    Romney won his debate because he came off presidential. Biden lost his debate because he's a disrespectful blowhard.

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