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Thread: Who won the VP Debate?

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    So who do you think won the debate?
    I think Biden probably took it.

    I wonder, though, how many were turned off by his constant condescending smiling at Ryan. I find that disrespectful.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by saveUS222 View Post
    This poll is flawed. There is no choice for draw.
    substance yes, Ryan's main failure was not really stomping Biden when Biden said BS

    Substance-Ryan won

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Ryan. He was professional and offered more figures and details on his plan. On the other hand Biden offered his smirk, mindless rhetoric, interruptions, less figures, and no plan at all. Also, on a few occasions ended up debating the moderator when he was in fact wrong or caught lying. D:

    Also, I love he kept bringing up how he cared for poor people when the fact is he gave less than a thousand to the poor last year. Caring....by not helping.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Vice Presidential debates can be a deal breaker for a rising star in either party in terms of their own career. That did not happen tonight.

    Biden won this one clearly on facts, leadership and confidence.

    Neither screwed up enough to cause the loss of their running mate imo and that is what they want to avoid. VP debates do not win elections yet they can harm the VP's career within their own party.

    I loved it when Biden called out Ryan on the "death panel" Sarah Palinesque weak attempt to deflect the medicare discussion. Obama should have smacked Romney down on that bit of lying BS and other deceptions. Romney tried the same tactic that is a complete distortion of reality.

    Biden was not only calm and stayed on facts ... he was badass!
    Ryan won on simple courtesy alone. Biden needed a muzzle and a leash.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Oh and people capital gains is NOT a loophole! Jesus ****ing Christ..

    And people Ryan never said there was going to be a "death" panel. He said that there will be a panel of 15 people that don't even need medical expertise. That is factual. Dion that was to you. Biden turned that comment into the death panel comment all on his little own.
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Biden won on my two main criteria: substance and appearance.

    Ryan was slightly below Biden on appearance because I appreciated his calm demeanor, but it was too weak.
    Ryan was way below Biden on substance. There was nothing but "we're different Obama there" which doesn't work when you don't have the aggressiveness to go with it.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Anyone who thinks that Ryan came even close to winning that debate is in complete denial.

    As we sometimes say down here in the South, that was a thumpin.'

    Now...when do we get to see the Biden-vs.-Romney debate?
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Are (some) of you people serious? Romney comes out aggressive and everyone gives him the auto win. Biden comes out as aggressive and he's being a jerk and Ryan's "professional"? LOL, give me a break.

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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    I did. I didn't watch it.

    (I was at school.)
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    Re: Who won the VP Debate?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Are (some) of you people serious? Romney comes out aggressive and everyone gives him the auto win. Biden comes out as aggressive and he's being a jerk and Ryan's "professional"? LOL, give me a break.
    I think Romney's style of aggressiveness is qualitatively different from Biden's, however. Biden's is much more irritated, which can have drawbacks as a result. Nevertheless, there was a significant portion of those moments where that exact method accomplished what he needed it to: demonstrate the perception that Ryan was either naive, off the mark, or whatever else. Other times it did not serve him well in that debate.
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