"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
Biden's sneering - and everyone talking about it - might reduce the acceptability of how hard Obama can go on the attack - where before this debate everyone on both sides fully expected him to do so. The Obama-Biden team is starting to risk coming across as extremely arrogant - Obama seeing himself as to above it all to bother with and Biden so sneering down old man.
THE DUMBEST moment in the debate was Biden RAGING that it is irrelevant if Iran obtains enough material to make atomic bombs because "they have nothing to put it into to make a bomb!!!!" Over and over.
That is sooooo ignorant it hard to explain as it is a known simplistic technology back to the very first atomic bomb. Put two halves of enough material for an atomic bomb at each end of a pipe with an explosive charge behind both - shooting the two balls of the material into each other and BOOM! you have an atomic explosion such as WWII. A trip to Home Depot, reload powder from a gunshop, and a hobby shop for a $20 model rocket igniter and you have what you need. An old cut-down cannon barrel or any solid pipe is plenty good.
It is alarming to think our cities' safety is dependence upon that level of scientific and military ignorant - particularly raging ignorance meaning not willing to listen or learn anything contradicting that ignorance.
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Biden was a condescending old man. He looked foolish. I don't see how he could have helped Obama with younger voters or undecideds.
I think his attack on the intelligence community, blaming them for Obama's insistence that the embassy attack sprung out of a protest, is going to really hurt Obama. There was real time evidence that our embassy was attacked by terrorists. Not only did Obama not protect the embassy on 9-11, but he orchestrated a cover-up about all aspects of the attack and lack of protection.
Thus, if all Biden did was act emotional and smirk at Ryan, while Ryan looked professional, then Ryan lost
It was notable that there was 1/3rd as many tweets as the presidential debate. I think most people changed channels. I had to force myself to watch it after the first half hour and found I was finding excuses to leave the room (go to the kitchen, check on the dogs, adjust the thermostat...) Unfortunately, it didn't become interesting until the last 30 minutes and by then I think most people had turned it off.
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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” .
"Only the dead have seen the end of war..." -Plato
Originally Posted by MichaelJR
Sorry, I'm not buying what you're selling. It's the same Republican bull**** that's finally getting old.
You know what's disrespectful? Lying and insulting the intelligence of Americans by continually flip flopping and refusing to actually tell us what the hell you plan to do in office Romney and Ryan continue to do. What's "rude" and "disrespectful" is refusing to answer questions and continually deflecting as Ryan did. Why don't the Republicans stop bitching about Ryan and take some personal responsibility and hold Ryan accountable for his disrespectful dishonesty. Oh wait, personal responsibility only applies to the other guy and respect only applies to how you appear, not who you actually are.
"It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to." - W. C. Fields